Is it me or could you get more information from an early 80's New Order album cover?

http://www.cooperfirearms.com/

Yes, I still want one, but it's hard to window shop.

It does need some serious work. Everything is there but finding it is a convoluted journey.

drover

What I mean specifically is that there isn't much information on the different styles. Click on a model and you'll see what I mean.

Yep. I wasn't able to find everything, but I got a little more info with a convoluted journey. It seemed like a better site about 3 years ago.

What model are you looking for?

You are not alone. I think it's the worst firearms site out there, and, by a long shot. Someone at Cooper likely has a cousin or friend that could build it on the cheap - and did.

Yea, Cooper.

The owner donated to the Obama campaign in the last election.

The FORMER owner...

John

The site may suck, but the rifles don't......

Their old website was much better.

I called Cooper after having a hard time with the website. They are going to send me a print copy of the catalog. I don't have it yet.

So, you really believe that?

Not long after the feces hit the fan, one cleverly teased it out of a source at Cooper that nothing had really changed.

Well since your information appears to be second-hand rumors here is the real story. I happened to know Dan Cooper fairly well, I also know Hugo V., the current owner, quite well and I also know most of the folks who are employed by Cooper - not just casually but on a first name basis so I think I have more insight into what has transpired than most of the rumors posted on the internet.

Dan Cooper has no connection with Cooper, he has not had a connection since it was purchased.

I do not agree with his giving money to the Obama campaign in 2008 but I will defend his right to have done so, after all this is the USA, we have more than one political party and each of us has the right to donate to whomever we choose. It was a bad decision for someone in the gun business to do but what was worse is that he tried to lie his way out of it and deny doing it political donations are public record and it is not difficult to ascertain who donated to who. Between that issue and his being ready to move on from the company anyway was the impetus of the selling of Cooper, certainly Dan C. was astute enough to realize that he had "shot himself in the foot" (pun intended). The best part of the news is that Cooper Firearms of Montana is now in good hands, building a quality product and offering more choices than ever.

drover

Since you're going to make such an outlandish claim, we're all eagerly awaiting a link to your no-doubt reputable source/article.

Drover, thanks for the post. As a Cooper owner, its good to know that the company is in good hands.
Scott

I'm not sure because I can't tell what's available. I suppose an Excalibur. I know some people with Coopers and they swear by them. I've also seen one of theirs and it looked really nice. I window shopped for them (via their old website) a few years ago. Now I should be able to afford one, so I started looking again (on the latest website) and got frustrated. Anyway, I'll still probably buy one for my next toy... unless BO ironically, gets re-elected and then I'll have to get a sport utility rifle first. Ha. I know that the guy who supported BO isn't with the company anymore, too.

And while you're digging your hole, can you also remind me what horrible firearm reforms came from the Obama administration?

Don't derail my thread, guys. That being said, no "reforms" happened during his administration, but it's not for lack of want and it's not like the guy isn't a control freak. Let's look at his past actions and words. First, he supported at least one anti-gun bill in the IL Senate. On his website and in the last round of debates he stated that he was in favor of a permanent renewal of the sport utility rifle ban. Finally, there's definitely some smoke around the Fast and Furious scandal. One would have to have their head in the sand to not realize what their agenda was with F&F. Feel free to email or PM me if you need to get up to speed.

Back to my post, I think I'd like a 52 in the Excalibur style with a SS barrel in 25-06 or 6.5-284. That's if such a thing is available. I don't know and also don't know what the bells and whistles are. I suppose that I could call my local dealer, but the internet seems like it should be more convenient. Thanks.

Had just the rifle you describe in 280AI. It was a beautiful rifle and a shooter. Sold it during one of my rifle trading episodes and regret it. One in either of those calibers would be a great long range rifle.

Still have my Cooper 17 Ackley Hornet in the Jackson Varminter model. Still my favorite rifle out of the couple dozen we have, they make a nice firearm.

UncleBig Green

Hopefully this will take you to a picture/description of what you have in mind - http://www.cooperfirearms.com/build-your-own

Open the home page click and click on "build your own" and use the drop-down boxes to bring up the rifle/description. This will give you a small picture of the rifle and its specifications.

I have found that going to the "home screen" and clicking on "our rifles" at the bottom of the page will bring up pictures of the different models offered. When you get there place the cursor on the model and click on it and it will open another window and show the different calibers and stock styles available in that particular model number.

There is nothing intuitive about the website - it all a matter of trial and error.

Hopefully you can make some sense of this, I do know how to describe the process better. It just shouldn't be this difficult to access a website for information.

drover

Thanks Drover, I went there and clicked the 6.5 and 25-06. It told me that I was SOL when I clicked 25-06 and 6.5-284. However, I noticed that they put style name first on the "build your own," so they've since update their site. It wasn't like that yesterday. Hopefully, that means that they're working on it. I realize that they're one of the better rifle mfgs. out there. So, even though I'm bitching, I'm also trying to help.

I'll own a Cooper. If BO doesn't get a second term, then it will be sooner rather than later.

yeah the site sucks but the rifles definitely do not.
you can get an excalibur in that model, caliber and barrel configuration.
If you want to see some pics check out guns america or gunbroker. There are quite a few dealers listing them with pics on there. Hendershots is a local store to me and has some good pics on their website. You have to click on gunroom then cooper then scroll down through.

I have two of the excaliburs in 6.5 CRDMR and a 25-06. For me they are the best option...I really like everything about them even the safety that most guys don't like.
Good luck and I am sure you will be happy with whatever you choose.

Also cove creek outfitters in PA has a website with pics and they have quite a few model 52's

Garuy

No hijack intended but Drover has it exactly correct on the company and ownership. In addition, Cooper is expanding and providing jobs in Stevensville, MT. Dan is gone but Cooper lives on.

The old site was much better. Cooper builds some beautiful rifles and this new site fails to capture that.
I still have 3 of the 5 Coopers I have owned. I sold two because I just couldn't bring myself to hunt big game with the upgraded wood they had.

I got the print catalog from Cooper yesterday, along with a price sheet and a booklet with specifications for all models. It really is easy to understand all the options available with each model, much better than the website. It has good photos of all the models. I am thinking either a Model 38 in .22 Hornet or a 57M in .22 LR. You really can put together a fancy .22. Not too many options available with the 38 however.

Cant believe all this complaining about a web site. Sheeeesh. I can see all the configurations just by clicking on a diffrent model. They are all shown on the our rifles page.
Flat out if you got the money, They will build you anything you want. Never had a problem out of the 4 I did buy (and still have) in getting exactly what I wanted. Great customer service too.
Oh and the first one I bought was in 04, and basically I dont give a rats azz who they donate money to, It is America, the 2nd amendment protects the rest of our rights, of which freedom of speech, and freedom of association are just a couple I can think of. And some of the comments on here seem to want to deny a certain people those rights just because it isnt your view.
Wow guess I cant buy anything American made as they might have donated to the wrong person or cause.

Swifty

There are more styles than there are models. I still want a Cooper rifle.

It was easier walking into the front door and shaking Mike's hand, picking out my blank, and picking out all the Bling I could afford. Greatest experience I have had or will ever have rifle shopping. Yea the sight stinks, and they don't chamber 6-6.5�47L, otherwise I would be ordering another pretty quick, and I would ship them my wood blank.