Well I picked up this SS 700 ADL in 30-06 on sale locally here a while back. I bought a 1st Gen Rem Ti Takeoff here on the Campfire Classifieds, I even bedded and floated the barrel myself , not once but twice (first job was embarrassing). I adjusted the X-Mark trigger to lighten the pull and voalah, the target pic below represents a 6 shot group at 200 yards with cheap old 165 grain Fusion factory fodder and the lower group with a slightly lower and left POI is a 6 shot group of 168 grain Barnes TTSX factory fodder. She wears one of the newer Bushnell Elite 3-9x40's and so far I cant imagine being to much happier with the results of this thing, pretty happy camper.
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I agree. I just picked up an SPS and plopped it into a Ti take off stock...it shoots like schitt too...
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I've always loved the Model 700. They shoot great.
Wait until the bolt handle falls off!
Couldn't resist, I'm a 700 fan too....
Yeah might have to have Kampfeld put a knob on it to expedite the handle falling off.
I know better than to shoot the second-hand 223 SPS I bought for a donor. It will become a 25-204 soon........but not soon enough!
Those really do suck. You should pawn them off on some unsuspecting sucker
Yeah might have to have Kampfeld put a knob on it to expedite the handle falling off.
Yup, with the bigger bolt knob I suppose its easier to pick up when it falls off-grin I really like the Campfire knob for that.
And I'll also agree, the SPS's can shoot, this 7mm-08 should work out fine, 140 grain Fusion ammo @ 100 yards. These where the 1st 5 shots to get on target.
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The bolt, the flutes, the bottom metal...very tacticool....
Nice, is that one you had him bead blast for you?
Nice, is that one you had him bead blast for you?
Yup, Karl made more purdy:)
As I recall the proper term for a Remington rifle is a "sucks". kwg
You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.
I re-tube every 700 I can get my hands on....therefore I never ever shoot em first. Have seen too many that shot too good to use as donors.
AC - nice shooting and a very cool all-around hunter you've got there.
Rem 700's have been very good to me over nearly 40 years. This is a 100 yard group fired last year a bit before taking my .25-06 out for mule deer & pronghorn. 115 Nosler Ballistic Tips & Retumbo. Yeah, it worked fine on mule deer & pronghorn as well as coyotes!
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What mods to my rifle? Ah.... I lightened the trigger pull a little, loaded for it and shot it... That's it. Danged thing shoots just fine.
Yours ought to be one mighty fine all-arounder. Looks good & shoots good.
Guy
You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.
The weight of the boolit has absolutely no bearing on where it will hit the target. Upon firing the barrel vibrates as the boolit is traveling down it, where the boolit exits the barrel in relation to this vibration is where it will impact the target. Thus a lighter boolit can actually hit lower on the target than a heavier one. This is why when we work up loads we search for the one load that exits the barrel in about the middle of the vibration cycle. As you add powder to the load you can see the groups opening and closing because of this phenomenon. Changing something as innocent as the primer can alter POI several inches. It changes the vibrations of the barrel. If you have seen the donuts that Sims sells for the barrel, this is to try and change the harmonics of the barrel. Same goes for the BOSS system on the Browning and Winchester rifles. As you move the BOSS brake out further it changes the harmonics within the barrel.
Looking good, rifle looks great in the Ti handle!
You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.
I zero'ed Federal Trophy Bonded 130 grain from my T/C Prohunter. It shot 1/2" MOA at 100 yds. Caliber .270.
Imagine my horror when I dropped Hornady GMX 130 gr. into the chamber and consistly shot 1/2" MOA...BUT 8 inches high right.
Zero'ed my Model 7 with the same results using Hornady 140 gr. SST, only with 4" grouping, while the Winchester Ballistic 140 grain is 1" MOA.
I am not bashing Hornady. I actually Like Hornady. I use it in more firearms than any other manufacture, just never ever my Model 7 or T/C.
You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.
Try some 180s in it if you want to tighten that group up some.
You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.
The weight of the boolit has absolutely no bearing on where it will hit the target. Upon firing the barrel vibrates as the boolit is traveling down it, where the boolit exits the barrel in relation to this vibration is where it will impact the target. Thus a lighter boolit can actually hit lower on the target than a heavier one. This is why when we work up loads we search for the one load that exits the barrel in about the middle of the vibration cycle. As you add powder to the load you can see the groups opening and closing because of this phenomenon. Changing something as innocent as the primer can alter POI several inches. It changes the vibrations of the barrel. If you have seen the donuts that Sims sells for the barrel, this is to try and change the harmonics of the barrel. Same goes for the BOSS system on the Browning and Winchester rifles. As you move the BOSS brake out further it changes the harmonics within the barrel.
That makes some sense but it does seem odd that most of the other loads in the same weight grain land very closely to the same POI on a vertical scale and for these 168's to hit even lower than 180 grain Power Points kind of surprised me. This pic below has a group covered in black stickies just below the orange bullseye ,that was 3 shots from factory 180 gr powerpoints and they actually impact higher than the 168 gr TTSX's.
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You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.
Try some 180s in it if you want to tighten that group up some.
Naahhh, 1"-1.5" @ 200 yards with flyers included is plenty good by me.
I have had and still do have quite a few 700s, cant say I have ever had a real bad shooter. A couple I had to work up loads for to get to shoot well.
Yep, POS Remington 700's. I was bored, so I wanted to build up a quick rifle. Used a new Remington 700 action and because I couldn't wait for the custom specification Pac-Nor barrel, in the meantime I stuck a Bergara prefit barrel on it chambered for .22-250. Head spaced it and tightened the barrel nut down with a plumber's strap wrench. Then screwed it down in a Bell & Carlson stock. Picked two loads out of a manual and loaded some break-in ammo. Thing didn't shoot worth a crap, I was real disappointed.
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Those little red diamonds are 1/2" square, I expected much better groups at 100 yards. You'd think all ten shots would stay together! I guess I should have bought a complete factory Remington rifle. Oh well, live and learn.
You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.
The weight of the boolit has absolutely no bearing on where it will hit the target. Upon firing the barrel vibrates as the boolit is traveling down it, where the boolit exits the barrel in relation to this vibration is where it will impact the target. Thus a lighter boolit can actually hit lower on the target than a heavier one. This is why when we work up loads we search for the one load that exits the barrel in about the middle of the vibration cycle. As you add powder to the load you can see the groups opening and closing because of this phenomenon. Changing something as innocent as the primer can alter POI several inches. It changes the vibrations of the barrel. If you have seen the donuts that Sims sells for the barrel, this is to try and change the harmonics of the barrel. Same goes for the BOSS system on the Browning and Winchester rifles. As you move the BOSS brake out further it changes the harmonics within the barrel.
That makes some sense but it does seem odd that most of the other loads in the same weight grain land very closely to the same POI on a vertical scale and for these 168's to hit even lower than 180 grain Power Points kind of surprised me. This pic below has a group covered in black stickies just below the orange bullseye ,that was 3 shots from factory 180 gr powerpoints and they actually impact higher than the 168 gr TTSX's.
I had a Tikka 06 once that would shoot 150's 165's and 180's all to the same POI but that was a very unusual barrel. When working up loads I expect the different bullet powder combos to be off by several inches in any direction. Especially the mono boolits like the tsx's. My 6.8 shoots the accubonds and the Sierra prohunters about an inch apart and shoots both very well. If all of this wasn't so. there would be no need for windage adjustments on sighting systems. We would only need up and down elevation adjustments to account for the various weight boolits as the sights would be in the very center of the sighting line and preset at the factory. I love it when a load comes together and when you keep shooting the hole in the target just seems to get a little darker with each shot. Means you have hit the sweet spot for that particular gun/load.
Used a new Remington 700 action and...stuck a Bergara prefit barrel on it....and tightened the barrel nut down.
I've never seen a Rem 700 with a barrel nut.
Used a new Remington 700 action and...stuck a Bergara prefit barrel on it....and tightened the barrel nut down.
I've never seen a Rem 700 with a barrel nut.
You have now.
Uses the Savage-type system threaded for a 700 action.
Wow, I just bought a 700ADL synthetic in 223 not long ago at a
good price. Havent shot it yet, so I should just sell it and
get rid of it?
Yeah dump it Jericho, they are junk!.....grin
You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.
The weight of the boolit has absolutely no bearing on where it will hit the target. Upon firing the barrel vibrates as the boolit is traveling down it, where the boolit exits the barrel in relation to this vibration is where it will impact the target. Thus a lighter boolit can actually hit lower on the target than a heavier one. This is why when we work up loads we search for the one load that exits the barrel in about the middle of the vibration cycle. As you add powder to the load you can see the groups opening and closing because of this phenomenon. Changing something as innocent as the primer can alter POI several inches. It changes the vibrations of the barrel. If you have seen the donuts that Sims sells for the barrel, this is to try and change the harmonics of the barrel. Same goes for the BOSS system on the Browning and Winchester rifles. As you move the BOSS brake out further it changes the harmonics within the barrel.
Interesting I have almost always had heavier bullets impact higher on target.
Wow, I just bought a 700ADL synthetic in 223 not long ago at a
good price. Havent shot it yet, so I should just sell it and
get rid of it?
I have no idea why you are asking me but I guess that's up to you. I was just pointing out that there is a Remington 700 system that uses a barrel nut now. No judgement was implied.
Wow, I just bought a 700ADL synthetic in 223 not long ago at a
good price. Havent shot it yet, so I should just sell it and
get rid of it?
Yes. get rid of it. Being the benevolent soul that I am, Id be willing to offer 50 cents on the dollar....
JSH, I was just fooling, nothing intended towards you.
Wow, I just bought a 700ADL synthetic in 223 not long ago at a
good price. Havent shot it yet, so I should just sell it and
get rid of it?
Get shed of it before it makes ya crazy mad.
One of my hunting buds bought one when they were still "new". Picked up several boxes of American Eagle 50gr soft points so he had something to shoot in it right away, along with RCBS dies.
That POS shot so well with that cheap ammo, that he went back and bought an entire case from the same lot number, never did get around to using the dies. Claimed he'd use his time to load "real ammo".
So naturally, I eventually had to have one myself. Would've prefered having his rifle, but his widder won't sell anything.
My M700ADL synthetic (1984 vintage) cost me $395 (used, but barely). That included scope bases and a Timney aftermarket trigger, which is superb. It's one of the "original" ones like his, with a fairly stout 24" barrel and yeah, it also shoots
very well.
I've got a McMillan Edge in Olive Speckletone coming that should be here next month. Its inletted for a mag contour with bottom metal since I was gona put it in a 257 ROY that I recently sold. So now I gotta decide whether to pick up a POS SPS in 300WM,7MM, or a short mag to put in it, decisions decisions......
Heres another POS...
A Stainless SPS I had AIed and plopped into a Ti stock...
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Used a new Remington 700 action and...stuck a Bergara prefit barrel on it....and tightened the barrel nut down.
I've never seen a Rem 700 with a barrel nut.
You have now.
Uses the Savage-type system threaded for a 700 action.
Thank you.
Are the new 700 SPS' manufactured without the J lock?
My 700s shoot like crap too.
Sorry about your misfortune.
Stock Rem 700s don't shoot very scheeit at long range, either.
the target pic below represents a 6 shot group at 200 yards with cheap old 165 grain Fusion factory fodder and the lower group with a slightly lower and left POI is a 6 shot group of 168 grain Barnes TTSX factory fodder.
Huh? My eyes or your typing?
They call 'em SUX for a reason.
I was just on the Remington site to see if they offered the 700 SPS in .280 Remington which is a caliber I've never owned but have come so very close and to my surprise it's not available. I had thought that caliber would match up nicely with this model.
They make the .270 and the .30-06. There's no need for the .280.
I just bought a Rem. 700, 7mm Mag and a Leupold 3.5-10x40 w/CDS from the Campfire. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but I will report on it, when I do.
I've been using the .30-06 forever and it meets all of my needs. Have had only one .270 a pre 64 Model 70 that left my collection prematurely. I did write down order# 27269 when I was on the site as a backup plan. My renewed interest in the .280 of late has as much to do with trying to minimize the number of components I stock while still experimenting with rifles.
You should can that piece of garbage quick BSA. A shame such poor quality left the plant.
the target pic below represents a 6 shot group at 200 yards with cheap old 165 grain Fusion factory fodder and the lower group with a slightly lower and left POI is a 6 shot group of 168 grain Barnes TTSX factory fodder.
Huh? My eyes or your typing?
No I mentioned it in the thread in the Gunwriters secton regarding Fusion ammo, but looks like I didnt comment on it here. There were in fact 6 of each round fired at each target, in both groups 2 bullets were in the same hole. You could slightly see the larger hole from the front looking closely but it was easier to see from the back of that plastic foam stuff the range gives us to hold the targets.
Those of us who do not care for a model 700, like myself, generally do admit that they are most often quite accurate. At least they do if they are intelectually honest. Accuracy is not the issue that causes our disdain. A Bolts are often scary accurate, too. Come to think of it, so are Savage 110's and the like once the trigger got fixed. Rail guns are accurate, too.
Thanks Cub. Nice shooting!
Heres another POS...
A Stainless SPS I had AIed and plopped into a Ti stock...
Crikes, Ingwe- that's a 3 inch group. Count the squares! Just average.
Let no man ever tell you that you are not dedicated....mad, probably!
.....Gotta test them in all sorts of conditions
. The little BDL worked like a champ!! Funny thing is, my new to me tang safety ruger 77 (270 win) had 3 misfires out of 20 rounds sent downrange...I had to tear the bolt apart and remove some sludge inside the bolt body: Some idiot had grease in there and it was cold enough that it was forcing it (brown paste) out of the firing pin hole at the bolt face
.. Fired it a few days ago with no problems, so that must have fixed the problem.. It's much better to find these problems at the range, rather than when you are drawing a bead on a dandy bull or buck.
I just cant believe BSA admitted to owning a Remington
Well I picked up this SS 700 ADL in 30-06 on sale locally here a while back. I bought a 1st Gen Rem Ti Takeoff here on the Campfire Classifieds, I even bedded and floated the barrel myself , not once but twice (first job was embarrassing). I adjusted the X-Mark trigger to lighten the pull and voalah, the target pic below represents a 6 shot group at 200 yards with cheap old 165 grain Fusion factory fodder and the lower group with a slightly lower and left POI is a 6 shot group of 168 grain Barnes TTSX factory fodder. She wears one of the newer Bushnell Elite 3-9x40's and so far I cant imagine being to much happier with the results of this thing, pretty happy camper.
Nice shooting, now just keep your fingers crossed that your bolt handle don't fall off and you should be good........Grin..............Hb
Well here we go again, I don't know why I subject myself to this punishment. Bought a 700 ADL in 25-06 yesterday, swung by Bass Pro and in the spirit of the Burris Fullfield II discussion in the optics forum I snagged one up with the ballistic plex and a pair of Talley lows. Brought the gun home and cleaned it real well, removed the epoxy from the trigger and did the best job I could to lighten her up a bit and then slapped her in a Ti Take off. Bought a box of Barnes factory 100 TTSX's and headed to the range this morning. Gotta love it when the first 6 shots out of a new POS rifle look like this. Ended up with a 1.25" group at 200 yards when I called it, I was having a hell of a time shooting it for accuracy with a guy hammering away with a 338 Lapua and the biggest dam muzzle break/flash suppressor I have ever seen in my life just 5 ft away from me (goddamm that thing was loud). I keep hearing about Remingtons quality going to chit , but I gotta tell you......I aint seen that!.....grin
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ADL 25/06s in a Ti takeoff are damn near perfect for hiking and murdering....
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Dat stock needs a little silver and black 'money shot' webbing....
The M700 has always been known as a good accurate rifle but in all honesty there are so many good accurate rifles made today that the groups on this thread are really not that different than can be done with most M70, 110, Tikka, Ruger, etc. nowadays.
Having owned rifles from Tikka, Sako, Savage, Husqvarna, Kimber, Remington, Ruger, Winchester, etc, they were all plenty accurate or were made to be (sub-MOA), but this most recent R700 barrel is the most accurate factory barrel that I've ever owned. This kind of accuracy is usually what I would expect out of a premium match-grade barrel, not a factory tube...
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The M700 has always been known as a good accurate rifle but in all honesty there are so many good accurate rifles made today that the groups on this thread are really not that different than can be done with most M70, 110, Tikka, Ruger, etc. nowadays.
I would agree with that but I bend towards the 700 cause theres more aftermarket junk for them...and I cant leave well enough alone...
The M700 has always been known as a good accurate rifle but in all honesty there are so many good accurate rifles made today that the groups on this thread are really not that different than can be done with most M70, 110, Tikka, Ruger, etc. nowadays.
I agree with you to some degree and I have owned/own all the rifles you mentioned and then some. But I will tell you that me not being a handloader and having to run the gauntlet of hope in accuracy from factory ammo in flavors I have confidence hunting with, I have been beyond fortunate in the way the last 5 or 6 Remingtons have performed for me. The same cant be said for all the brands you mentioned above and some I have owned and sent down the road because I couldn't get them to shoot factory ammo with the kind of accuracy I demand. These Remingtons have ranged from $379 ADL's to $1,000 CDL SF's, none have let me down, or made me work all that hard to grin!
The M700 has always been known as a good accurate rifle but in all honesty there are so many good accurate rifles made today that the groups on this thread are really not that different than can be done with most M70, 110, Tikka, Ruger, etc. nowadays.
I would agree with that but I bend towards the 700 cause theres more aftermarket junk for them...and I cant leave well enough alone...
That's usually my rationalization, too
Yeah those 700s really suck. Three shot group with a 45 year old BDL in 270 at a measly 100 yards
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Here's our 45 year old 270 with our 2 year old XCR II
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Our 375 Weatherby XCR II at the same distance (I blame the shooter, me) ...
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I hates the SUCKS. They cost me mo' money every time I hold a good one.
Particularly when a person sticks a solid ADL in my hand for only 3 Brown Trout (Canadian Benjamins).
3 Brown Trout (Canadian Benjamins).
Im coming up to your country next month after a 3 year absence. I was unaware of the 'Brown Trout' but know about loonies and twonies....anything else I should know?
The M700 has always been known as a good accurate rifle but in all honesty there are so many good accurate rifles made today that the groups on this thread are really not that different than can be done with most M70, 110, Tikka, Ruger, etc. nowadays.
Bwahahha. I wish.
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