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Well I picked up this SS 700 ADL in 30-06 on sale locally here a while back. I bought a 1st Gen Rem Ti Takeoff here on the Campfire Classifieds, I even bedded and floated the barrel myself , not once but twice (first job was embarrassing). I adjusted the X-Mark trigger to lighten the pull and voalah, the target pic below represents a 6 shot group at 200 yards with cheap old 165 grain Fusion factory fodder and the lower group with a slightly lower and left POI is a 6 shot group of 168 grain Barnes TTSX factory fodder. She wears one of the newer Bushnell Elite 3-9x40's and so far I cant imagine being to much happier with the results of this thing, pretty happy camper.

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I agree. I just picked up an SPS and plopped it into a Ti take off stock...it shoots like schitt too...

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Yup , absolute junk!

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I've always loved the Model 700. They shoot great.


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Wait until the bolt handle falls off!







Couldn't resist, I'm a 700 fan too....


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Yeah might have to have Kampfeld put a knob on it to expedite the handle falling off.

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I know better than to shoot the second-hand 223 SPS I bought for a donor. It will become a 25-204 soon........but not soon enough!



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Those really do suck. You should pawn them off on some unsuspecting sucker laugh

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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
Yeah might have to have Kampfeld put a knob on it to expedite the handle falling off.


Yup, with the bigger bolt knob I suppose its easier to pick up when it falls off-grin I really like the Campfire knob for that.
And I'll also agree, the SPS's can shoot, this 7mm-08 should work out fine, 140 grain Fusion ammo @ 100 yards. These where the 1st 5 shots to get on target.

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The bolt, the flutes, the bottom metal...very tacticool.... cool


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Nice, is that one you had him bead blast for you?

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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
Nice, is that one you had him bead blast for you?
Yup, Karl made more purdy:)


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As I recall the proper term for a Remington rifle is a "sucks". kwg


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You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.

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I re-tube every 700 I can get my hands on....therefore I never ever shoot em first. Have seen too many that shot too good to use as donors.

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AC - nice shooting and a very cool all-around hunter you've got there.

Rem 700's have been very good to me over nearly 40 years. This is a 100 yard group fired last year a bit before taking my .25-06 out for mule deer & pronghorn. 115 Nosler Ballistic Tips & Retumbo. Yeah, it worked fine on mule deer & pronghorn as well as coyotes!
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What mods to my rifle? Ah.... I lightened the trigger pull a little, loaded for it and shot it... That's it. Danged thing shoots just fine.

Yours ought to be one mighty fine all-arounder. Looks good & shoots good.

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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.
The weight of the boolit has absolutely no bearing on where it will hit the target. Upon firing the barrel vibrates as the boolit is traveling down it, where the boolit exits the barrel in relation to this vibration is where it will impact the target. Thus a lighter boolit can actually hit lower on the target than a heavier one. This is why when we work up loads we search for the one load that exits the barrel in about the middle of the vibration cycle. As you add powder to the load you can see the groups opening and closing because of this phenomenon. Changing something as innocent as the primer can alter POI several inches. It changes the vibrations of the barrel. If you have seen the donuts that Sims sells for the barrel, this is to try and change the harmonics of the barrel. Same goes for the BOSS system on the Browning and Winchester rifles. As you move the BOSS brake out further it changes the harmonics within the barrel.

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Looking good, rifle looks great in the Ti handle!

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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.


I zero'ed Federal Trophy Bonded 130 grain from my T/C Prohunter. It shot 1/2" MOA at 100 yds. Caliber .270.

Imagine my horror when I dropped Hornady GMX 130 gr. into the chamber and consistly shot 1/2" MOA...BUT 8 inches high right.


Zero'ed my Model 7 with the same results using Hornady 140 gr. SST, only with 4" grouping, while the Winchester Ballistic 140 grain is 1" MOA.

I am not bashing Hornady. I actually Like Hornady. I use it in more firearms than any other manufacture, just never ever my Model 7 or T/C.

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Originally Posted by AlaskaCub
You know what still has me a bit bamboozled is the fact that the Barnes 168 TTSX loads hit about 1 1/2 to 2" lower than the Fusions do. The 165 gr Coreloks and the 165 grain Interlocks hit to almost the same POI as the Fusions do , and it suprises me that the Barnes loads hit that much lower. Have read that the Fusions are generally loaded a little mild but they have been almost identical to most other 165 gr factory loads I have shot. Cant imagine 3 grains making that much difference or they are just that much slower.




Try some 180s in it if you want to tighten that group up some.


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