If you could only use one of the Weatherby magnums which would it be? I'm rather fond of the .257 Bee myself but haven't given any of the others trigger time.

Never used any 'cause brass is 4 bucks a piece here!

Ouch!

Sorry that didn't answer the q.

Prob a 270 Wby shooting the 150ABLR, optimised around same.

Well at one time I owned and hunted with a 240, 7mm 300 and 340 Weatherby Magnums, give what I know, the 7mm Weatherby Mag is the one I would go with, thou the 270 Weatherby would do as well

I depends on what your going to use it for. The 300 is the classic all rounder but you may not need it's power. Other good choices are the .270 or 7mm Wby mags. Or stay with the .257 and be happy!

The 7mm is the pick of the litter,due case capacity,case length,performance to recoil ratio and BC.

No thing to make cases from 7mmRemmie.

Would much prefer a S/A version of same in a Montucky 7 Whizzum,as noone hates belts more than I and I gotta have a GOOD series of reason to go L/A............

$4 each for brass? Where does one buy their brass? At that level, one at least has a cartridge he can talk about.

Once again, the guns are coming out of the safe and my Weatherby cartridges are joining several bricks of 22 LR's.

Shhhhhhhhsh...I'm fixin' to make a coupla million quick bucks.................(grin)

No need for the 300 around here. Love my 257. Been giving the 240 some trigger time lately. It will hopefully draw blood this season.

If I were in the market for another Wby it would be a 7 mm.

I'd take a 7mm weatherby but I'm kinda a 7mm slut. 300 weatherby would be another good all around rifle but I can't for the life of me like a 30 cal bullet for some reason and I've sent more than a few down range.

Elk at 660 yards, Antelope at 150. The 300 WBY will kill big and small at any distance...

I've nostalgic fondness for for the 300,but am at ease in setting emotion aside and connecting dots.

I'd be VERY impressed,if anyone has shot more 257 than I. No bullets there,so it's out.

I like 240 performance,but would much rather 6-06/6-06AI and pick my throat/twist.............

shrapnel,

Awesome!

What bullets and glass?

Thanks............

Shrapnel I hope you mounted that antelope buck that thing is pretty sweet

I hate to do this but since Stick is being civil this afternoon I'm going to agree about the 6-06. My 240 is a custom but it came with a 10 twist so the best bullets are out. Wish it was an 8 twist.

Ain't subject to debate.

Bullets matter more than headstamps.................(hint)

I'd be happy to pay two bucks a piece here in the land of being ripped off blind.

Shrapnel, incredible antelope!

I always felt the .300 Bee was too much of a good thing and like the Winnie more.

For which chambering,in particular?.............

I'll be curious to hear the particulars,but suspect no one will..............(grin)

I did have a Schmidt and Bender 4-16X50 on it but replaced it with a Swaro Z-6 3-18.

At that time I was,using Accubonds, but have switched to 180 grain BT...

In the house...

Looked at a 270 Wby rifle. Then priced up brass. 180-odd bucks for 50 pieces!

I lose half of my brass when shooting pigs and goats, so walked away shaking my head.

The Weatherbys aren't popular here. A few like the 257 and 300, that's about it. But for every one of those sold, there'd be 20 x 25-06 and 300 Win Mags.

The 257,270 and 7mm are easy to work around,as they are 25" H&H based,if only obviously.

Simply feed any of 'em with 7mmRemMag brass,most of which will soundly TRUMP the soft Weatherby(Norma) junk. Federal being an exception and just as bad..............

I wondered about that, the 7 Rem option. Might have a rethink. Thanks.

The 7mm Weatherby.

Stick, I'll gladly put some dollars in your pocket for some of that fine 257 bee ammo....(big grin)

You let me do the thinking...you just write it down and apply.

Then you'll be connecting dots in no time..............(hint)

My favorites are the 300, 257 and 7. I reload all my ammo and have had good luck with Remington 300 Weatherby brass. If i could have just one caliber, the 300 is my pick.

My favorite of the Wby Cal's is the 240 Wby

340 Wby is my favorite. Next would be the 270.

257 Weatherby has to be seen on deer to believed. My vote for the favorite.

GreggH

LOL. I've tears in me eyes, mate.


I'd cast my vote in the direction of the 7Roy but the 257 is fun to play with and carries the mail at modest distances.

270 Wthby for me, my only one.Recoil is not bad, kills near and kills far. It's the best, f**k the rest. Eh, Stick someone holding a gun on you, when you are polite you kinda echo like a pervert? Magnum Man

Hats off to Roy Weatherby for creating a different gun product and making it last and work.

His products don't appeal to me as a long barreled rifle with inlays in it's stock and free-bore in it's throat are not what I like.

I had a MK V 378 for a while and loaded it down. I wanted to check it out and it had been made by Sauer.

The ONLY thing you've ever loaded to "potential" is your imagination...............

Seen it.

While I certainly didn't invent the 257Wby...I did perfect it...............(grin)

Don, that looks like a pre-Mark V to me?

'Ya think?!?................

My favorite is the 240wby. Mine is a 1/8 twist so I can shoot VLD type bullets.

The new and improved "Bigstick" aka Boxer, is kinda spooky.

Usually people that post under multiple handles and personalities are BATSHIT crazy?

I possess exactly one Weatherby rifle, in non-Weatherby cartridge, so all I have to go by are ballistics charts. Given that, the 7mm comes in with the Blue Ribbon by a length. Runner up: the over-boomer 300. The 7 is close to perfect capacity for a magnum 7. Seems like I could duplicate the 257 and then some in the 7 with the right light bullet. The 300 offers no more range than the 7, so the only plus there is heavier bullets, more KE.

Blued/walnut Safe Queens in conjunction with Monkey avatars are a hoot.

Mainly because one KNOWS it's the best them folks can "do"............

That's a monkey with a gun!! geez your slow.
Self deprecating humor is something that flies over your pointy head.

That Mouser is a safe queen in your imagination.
The metal is Cerakoted and the stock has a waterproof epoxy finish.
Just to prove that a nice rifle can be functional.

Read that again and take notes!! Laffin, ha ha , lol... gfy

irfubar,

beautiful rifle you got there. Mine is built on a Pre-64 action and is a one hole gun with Sierra 85s but the 1-10 twist just won't handle the heavies. If I ever manage to shoot out the barrel, it will be replaced with a 1-8.

I miss nothing and THE slowest of pokes...routinely miss that obvious. Congratulations?

Dangle a "Conquest" pic of the 'Queen,with a Splendid Beastie at it's beckoning.

Wow.............

I've owned a number of 257's and am now having a 270 made around the 150 gr Berger VLD for a little more down range punch. Should be fun!

Eric

He's back........



and one more thread that will turn into a Juvenile Goat Phcuk,



comical, but nothing productive will come of it.

Just sayin'


GWB

Try out something like this.



Just sayin'...............

geedubya,

Your plagiarism continues to ROCK.

Congratulations?................

'Tis a SAD day,when a .277" humbles a .257.

Pass the 7 Whizzum.................(hint)

Lot of truth there. Under 400yds, where 95% of big game is taken and BC doesn't mean schit, the 257WBY really has no equal.

I bet more than one Depends has been loaded too.

TAINT,

Which bullet(s),might you pretend to be shooting in "your's"?

Do tell..............

Undoubtedly.............

B,

put yo' money where your mouth is.

I got 10 Benjamins that say the original of the goat [bleep] that is mine. I can provide date and location. The Shining pix is public domain/fair use.

Put up or GFY

GWB

100gr Barnes TTSX. Also have some 80gr TTSX loaded up but haven't used them on game yet.

Noticed you were being civil in your posts this afternoon, been hitting the bottle pretty hard since dark?

geedubya,

Batting 50% as a "best" case scenario ain't much of a "Trump Card"...though in fairness,the Texas version of everything is PRICELESS...............(hint)

TAINT,

DO show your Imaginary rifle and it's Imaginary "conquests".

The 100TTSX is no XLC................(hint)

I'll buy a couple fer ya'.

Best,

GWB

No pictures of dead game with that rifle, only a few does killed since I've owned it. The rifle is the custom Pre-64 built by Safariman that has been the subject of quite a few threads here on the 'fire. Run a search if you want to see it. GFY!

geedubya,

As the Texas State flag's motto says: "When in doubt...plagiarize out".

Congratulations?..................

I'll feign my "surprise".

Wow................

The purpose of showing that picture was only to illustrate inlays such as Weatherby put in his early creations.

Don,

Please do NOT let these cowards sway you and your expertise...keep posting your knowledge and experience,at their expense.

You've facts on your side...............

Hint..........

Nobody cares about you and your hints!!
Get a clue you wack job!

Them with your Imagination and Monkey avatars...GOTTA tell themselves something and that was FUNNY!

Hint..............(hint)

I have owned or used all but a very few Weatherby cartridges but the 7mm is likely my choice and one of the few never to grace my stable.

John

I have owned them all and currently have all of them sans the 338-378 and the 300 Bee.


I do like my 7mm bee in the Euromark. Beautiful gun. 154 gr at 3300 fps.

Got a pic of the Euromark Fotis?

Good review of that model recently on RealGuns if you didn't see it.

.375 Wby, since I have one.

Got it . A lot of people think the pre- MarkV 's were gaudy. I like them the best. But then I grew up reading Grandpa's Wally Taber books so I was accustomed to the flashy looks before I ever started shooting.

I see the 162 A-wesome has whipped out it's pecker and shamed others yet again.

I have a hard time with a rifle company that pretends there are no left-handed hunters. I s'pose all the lefties are screwing the wives of the Mrk V shooters on their fancy hunts.

Particulars on the build please. That's a purty rifle.

That is a supurb classic.

I also like the .240 and mine is an HS Precision SPL with McM Hunters Edge. The HS handle weighs 42 oz and is chunky. The Edge weighs 26 oz and is much sleeker.

DF

I have a friend whose trophy room has about 130 heads including a griz. He shot almost all with a .300 Wby Mark V. When recoil became a problem he went to a .270 WBY Mark V.

I doubt if there's a cartridge that I don't like. Keep in mind that before Holland & Holland decided to put belts on big cartridges, our hunting forefathers were doin' it all with the '06 & our Canadian neighbors were doin' it all with the .303 British. But I do like Weatherby cartridges.

I read an article in F&S,which stated that bullets matter.................

SansSouci,

You really know your stuff and lots of people.

Thanks for the intel!..............

1909 Argentine Mauser action
#1 contour 1/8 twist Douglas barrel, 23" long, 240 Wby.
Dakota safety, Timney trigger
Cerakote metal finish
Oregon black walnut stock, Sitka Deer's warm epoxy finish
Ebony tip, decelerator pad.
S&K rings and mounts.
6x36 Leupold with LRD.
I.T.&D. installed the barrel, the rest was done by me.
The stock is a pattern of my own design.
Tim Smith/Lyon did the checkering.
It loves Berger 115gr VLD's with H1000 at 3125fps.

Would make a fair boat paddle,at best.................(hint)

You sure been posting alot lately? Did ya lose your job?
Laffin,

I work part time.

But in fairness,it's a fairly good hold..................(grin)

Now do tell,what does Monkey Boy see the useless Safe Queen "doing"?

CM sucks. Walnut sucks. Belts suck. Mousers suck. 6x36 double sucks without M1.

In fairness Timney's ain't horrid.............(hint)

Eastern Montana mule deer.
Walnut works great as does the CM barrel.
Often older bucks don't hang around while you zap them with the lazer then spin your turret, the dots are fast.


And if I need turrets I have this:
6.5-06, #3 Brux, 1/8.5 twist,Shilen trigger, 140gr Bergers @2900fps

Big Stink,
Now that you have lost your job, maybe you can sell your rifles for 50cents on the dollar?

I will give you 25 cents on the dollar, just to help a fellow shooter. Laffin

Oh no doubt...Walnut and CM become better and better,the less they get "used" and would undoubtedly be GREAT for you.

So dots are how to roll on hasty UKD Victims?

Thanks for sharing your "knowledge" and "experience"!..................(wow)

I don't sell.

Should it cheer you up,I just scored another Montucky seconds ago.

Funny how it actually works and I mean FUNNY!...............

Stink please share your experience with open country mulies and include pic's.
Thanks

This stuff is all new to me,what was the subtension values again on your Magic Dots?

You may or may not,wanna be pretty careful...................(hint)

Doubt it was much over 3 decades ago,that I killed my first Mulie.

Tough to get excited about 'em...though in fairness,some do.............

Looks like too many were ignoring "boxer" so we are now back to the big stick profile

Imagination and Pretend are priced,so that everyone can "contribute"...which is of course the only way most can..................(hint)

Ok Big stink,
Now fess up, you are really, "little stink", Boxers son, playing on dads computer, huh?
That is so precious, following in daddy's footsteps!

Now some advice, step away from the puter and find and read and study a book on english.
Proper english will serve you much better in the real world than your daddy's gibberish, trust me, read that again...hint.

Oh and just out of curiosity, does your dad talk to his boss and co-workers like he talks to campfire members?
Maybe thats why he is unemployed? So sad

You ALMOST said something about Magic Dots.

Almost.

I "wonder" why you did not?..............(grin)

You be sure to tell yourself those things you MOST need to hear,long,loud and often...because it really "works" for you....................(hint)

You almost said something about your open country mulie experience, almost.
Please post pic's , thanks little stink.
You do your daddy proud.

I enjoy how you stack Pretend,on top of Pretend.

You be sure to convince yourself that I've never seen "open country" or something as "rare" as a Mule Deer and it could only become more hilarious,if you could pull the hoax off.

Laughing..................(grin)

Too fuggin' funny...



Travis

Whoops...somebody forgot to do some date comparisons using '<' and '>', and the concepts of 'before' and 'after'.

There isn't a WBY cartridge I've ever really had an itch to have. 257 just a smidgen but that went away quickly.
There isn't a WBY rifle I've ever wanted either.

Roy's chambering were/are always much better than his rifles...those with more than (2) lugs,being the biggest POS.

He connected alotta dots in the pre-LRF Days and I've most of the T-shirts...............

Woot! Weather just broke. Was pea soup to the literal deck this early AM,now it's starting to look plausible to mebbe find a victim for one of the 20 Deer Tags in the house.

Could wait until Fall,to keep it a "fair" Maine Minimum but Season has only been open nearly a month and there's only 4 more months left. Should tote an '06,if only for laughs!

Decisions...decisions.................(grin)

Moose, Have had several rebarreled 700's in .257 Wea. Mostly used it on coyotes, antelope and deer.. I have a 7mm Wea. 300, and 340.. I use the .340 least, but it is a great caliber.. I no longer have the .257.. I use my 7mm instead.. I can shoot a 120 for coyotes and deer faster out of it than the .257 and still have the option of heavier bullets.. I bought Rem. brass for the 300, and made the 340 brass out of 8 mag. brass.. the 7mm is easily made from 7mm Rem. brass.. I like the Wea. calibers.. But my fav. is still the .300 win.

Fotis, nice timber. The flat finish is much better than some of those glossy ones too.

I like the oil finish also.

The LGS has a new Mark V , a new Vanguard S2, and a Vanguard Whitetail Bonz edition, all three are in .257 WM. Very tempting. I haven't had one for about 8 years now.

270 Weatherby for me. 130 Berger VLD Classic Hunter at 3450 or a 150 LRAB at 3200 will do all I need.

7 Wby for me. I have 5 of them & seriously jonesing for the one in the Classifieds right now. Can't quite bring myself to do it.

I do like a 26" barrel on a 257 Roy..........



100 gr. Partition @ 3,650 FPS works.

Best,

GWB

Very nice, GWB!

GWB ias it going on, to be sure. I wouldn't put my .340 Bee against him any day of the week and for sure not on Sunday. I'd be thrilled to call him a campfire brother, though.

.300 Bee is the only cartridge I have experience with. My dad bought a Mark V in Germany while he was stationed there, 1962 IIRC.

Ruger 1B



Accumark






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Geedub,
I agree the two five seven shines with a 26". Unfortunately the Vanguards don't get a long tube. Thy still smoke a .25-06 though.



I'm really surprised the 7mm Bee is getting so much love. I had always regarded it as one of the redheaded stepchildren of the Weatherby lineup due to thee fact that every Mark V I seem to see is in .257,.270 , or 300.

A 26 in barrel is the only way to fly on the 257 Roy. I've had a few Vanny's and the muzzle blast was ferocious at 24 inches. Converted my last Vanguard to a custom..with a 26 in barrel of course.

115 Ballistic Tips at 3450 are nasty on Coyotes..


...as are 110 AB's at 3500 on Iranian Red Sheep.


However...I'm giving my Roy's a rest. It's all about the new 6-06 for the up-coming season. Remmy 700 action, Brux 8 twist..26 in of course. Shoot's the 105 VLD's very nicely over a stiff charge of MRP. 3300 fps should do the trick!

Probably the 7 mm or the 300 neither of which I've used. Did use the 340 for two decades or so and took about ten bulls with it. I didn't intend it to be a long range affair as most think of it now but to be a hammer on cross canyon, or open country elk say to five hundred yards. It was. I came to love the cartridge and the platform I had it in.

Also used the 270 in a ginned up 700 with the "Weatherby throat" and never could get the accuracy I wanted. It was table-top flat to five hundred though and is the only cartridge I shot OVER a deer with at about 350 once.

I am a fan of both the 300 and 257. The 300 has been my go to all purpose cartridge and it has served me well. The 257 is great for deer, antelope, and hogs.

I just helped a friend setup his UL in 240 and it was a sweet rifle. We shot it yesterday and it was printing nice little 1/2" clusters at 100 yards with 90 grain NABs. It now has me wanting one as well! The UL has a 24" barrel but does not have near the blast or recoil of the 257 so it might be a nice compliment for my other Weatherbys.

The 6-06 simply stomps the 257Wby..............

So then you'd be a fan of the 240 Roy??

With say 85 gr. Partitions??


Best,

GWB

Belts and Ping Pong Balls are best inside fences...............

As to belts, you're more of an expert than I; as to inside fences, most of the time that's all I need.

Tough to throw '06 logistics aside,so as to "enjoy" a proprietary moot belt...no matter the AO.

I've seen me tie stuff to a tree...............

The 257 Weatherby is without a doubt, the most impressive deer & hog killer I've ever used. Not a single animal has ever taken a step, probably close to 100 head of game. I own three, an Ultramark I bought at the old Firestone Blvd store from Mr. Roy himself, a custom German Weatherby and a Vanguard with the same upgrades as on my son's post (Timney, McMillan and a different [Zeiss) scope).

That said, if I could only have one rifle/one caliber, my almost twenty year old MKV 300 is it. Over 17 head of African game, bear, deer, hogs and this wartie at around 350 yards off sticks (at the tree line in the photo). One shot w 180gr Partition.

Georgie,

Love your hand holding pictures!................

I've been thinking about buying another stainless Vanguard 257 wby or having one built. I got a pile of 257 wby brass collecting dust that hasn't been touched since I sold my last Vanguard. They are fun.

I'd trip the brass and start thinking bullets.............(hint)

I'd sell that pile o' brass here and pick up a free .243 Ruger American and Leupold fx2.

I'd be thinking bullets and FUN.

223 Montucky and 6x MQ FF................

Sure...if the pile o' brass is big enough...

I'd happily give it all away,cut my losses and move forward in a positive direction...........(hint)

Link to info with update on the .240 Wby.

DF

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...9106018/Re_240_bullet_choice#Post9106018

It would be a boring world if we all connected those dots the same way, no?
The .257 gives the guy who is never going to shoot past 500 at game, pretty much everything he needs.

and over 100 yds.

Under 100 and you're looking a jelly for about a 12 inch circle on medium sized game.

I know the craze is shooting long range, but I've only found it necessary to make one kill over 500 yds. The other many hundreds of critters have been 300 yds. and under.

Oh I probably know the chambering well.

Bullets matter more than headstamps and there just happens to be a goodly selection of chamberings,that will do very tidy things inside the 500yd line.

Funny part is,they'll do some well beyond it too...................(hint)

Ya know, B,

After your ringing endorsement of the 300 Weatherby earlier in this thread, I decided I must be missing the mark so to speak.
So I rushed out to my local watering hole to see what I could stir up.
Sho' nuff, there was a feller there that said he'd just returned from the Milford and them green tipped bullets just bounced off those free range northern critters.
I offered my consolation and bought him a shot of Mezcal (the lime was free, courtesy of the establishment). We palavered a bit and I coaxed him out of that 300 Roy.



He said it was a fine' shooter, didn't hardly kick at all.



A Remington 700 Classic. I know how much you luv Remingtons, and Wood, so being as it was "B" approved I couldn't hardly pass it up.

I got it cheap, $500 with scope.



It did have 5 holes in the shootin' end. Think that might have had something to do with the price???

I figure Texas critters ain't as tough as those on the Milford, so them green tipped bullets should work just fine.

Your thoughts????

Best,

GWB

The Texas Version of everything,is hilarious.

I'm sure a Loudener will enhance your fence hopping forays and add great satisfaction...................

Back at ya, and 10/4. LOL

If the bullet don't blow 'em over the fence, perhaps the concussion will.

I do like my chicken fried steaks tenderized. LOL

Best,

GWB

NPT's then..............

Off a bench under a tin roof, you'll feel the concussion when that thing goes bang...

Will definitely test your hearing protection equipment.

NPT's aren't the sleekest LR bullet, but effective. In some guns, I've seen them prove to be the most accurate bullet.

DF

10/4 on that



The bench rest range as our shooting club is covered, and it seems that it always is the case that the guy on my left or right is always shooting either a rifle with a brake or a newbie with an AR and no brass catcher *usually on my left in this case) I've learned. I wear ear plugs and ear muffs. Definitely helps with the concussion.

I've not yet shot the 300 Roy. I'll clean the barrel down to bare metal with a JB bore paste and Kroil combo. I've loaded up some 180 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips with 75-79 gr. of RL 19 in 2 gr. increments and some IMR 7828SC from 80.5-84.5 gr., the same at a COAL of 3.565. I've laid in a store of Accubonds. Since I'll only be shooting deer and hogs, the Ballistic Tips should work fine, but I do like the performance of the Accubonds. Depending on the groups I'll probably end up using a load that clocks around 3,000 to 3,050 fps. Anyway, whoever owned it before replaced the original pad with a kick-eze 1" pad, bedded the action, did a trigger job and magna-ported it. Will see what the rifle sez.

Best,

GWB

GW,

While you have it that clean, do the DBC treatment.

DF

I've always wanted a 7mm Weatherby in a Model 70. Had a couple of 300 Weatherbys in the past as well. Little brother shoots a 257 Weatherby. Fun rifle.

I have a good friend who uses a 7mm Wby mag when he is hunting seriously, uses it well and very successfully. It aint on a Weatherby action though...

I've never been a Wby fan, but ended up with a MkV in .257 Wby. It wasn't consistent so I put a 7RM Brux tube on it and dropped it in a McM Wby. Express (formally Sako Safari).

The MkV is a big, heavy action, but is slick and fast, seems well made. I replaced the factory trigger with a Timney and it's a serious shooter.

Still not a Wby fan. My only Wby. round is the .240 but in an HS rifle. It too is a shooter. I traded for that rifle, but if doing a build would go 6mm-06 instead of .240. Wby brass is expensive and forming .240 cases from .25-06 brass takes muscle, making 6mm-06 cases, much easier.

And, I would go with an 8 twist instead of 10 to use the 105 Scenar. My .240 can't handle that bullet.

DF

I may look into that.

I've a belief that most folks that fancy themselves rifle looneys clean their rifles too much. I see guys at the range that will shoot 8 to 10 rounds and clean. Then they are pissed cause their rifles won't group. I figure on many rifles it takes that many or more to get a barrel fouled. On a rifle such as this Remington Classic, I'd bet I can get 75 rounds down the tube before any degradation in accuracy. Once I develop a load I like it will be a while before I put another 75 rounds through it.

For a low volume shooter, what would be your suggestion as the benefits of Dyna-Bore Coat?

Best,

GWB

If I ever built another 7mm mag it will be a weatherby. Not necessarily on a weatherby action though. Now if they offered the chambering in a vanguard I'd think about it very seriously. Only other weatherby I would even consider is a 257 but I'd most likely go with a 25-06 in that caliber, and no more than a 24" barrel. I am mostly a timber/broken country hunter so portability becomes a significant factor in a hunting rifle and anything longer than 24" in a bolt action feels awkward, to me.

Think 22" 243.

Thank me later..................(hint)

Can do that.........



It works just fine on smallish critters..........



Best,

GWB

Pass the good stuff,hold the Fluff.

Texas Teutonic Humor,is HILARIOUS....if only because it's obllivious.................(hint)

I agree with cleaning too much. Some OCD types wear their barrel more with cleaning than shooting.

The good thing about DBC, fouling is greatly reduced. I shoot my treated premium barrels a bunch before cleaning. And a patch or two of Eliminator or equivalent is all that's needed. Even with rougher factory barrels, like some Rem tubes, they foul much less, don't need cleaning as often.

My guns seem to group better after they've been fired several times. So, I clean them only periodically whether they need it or not. I've not experienced a loss of accuracy due to fouling, but I don't burn as much powder as some Fire contributors.

DF

I imagine. Especially since the .240 is belted and the .25-06 isn't.

It'd be funny to get all these Pretenders gathered in the flesh,for a Shooting Exhibition.

I mean FUNNY!................

My favorite remains the .257 -- but not because of some well-constructed scientific argument. It's a purely sentimental choice. I like it. I've always liked it. I continue to kill stuff DRT with it, and that makes me happy. Everything else is irrelevant.

It can be done, just take some muscle. Link to the process and equipment.

Making 6mm-06 brass from .25-06 cases not nearly as hard.

The 6mm-06 case is beltless and has a tad more capacity than the .240. A from the ground up build, no contest, go with the 6mm-06.

DF

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/5820015/11

Well I'll be.....I stand corrected. Looks like a major PITA though.

Actually not that bad, just takes some effort with a good, compound press, to swedge the whole case body, leaving the belt. It's best to use new brass, once fired has been "worked", making it hard. You wouldn't think just one firing would make brass that much harder, but it seems to. I guess one could anneal used brass, but you don't want to get too far down on the case body with that process. It's just easier to use virgin brass.

DF

Interesting. Learn something new every day.

In reviewing that old thread, I remember Mike A saying to use anhydrous wool fat as the lube. He said it works better than other lubes, including die wax.

So, if I can find W/W .25-06 brass, I may give anydrous wool fat a try.

DF

Good luck finding any .25/06 brass. I have been searching the net for months and there is only a little used brass for up to double the "usual" price of new brass unfortunately.

Yeah, one can find Nosler and Norma brass selling for Wby prices. Kinda takes the incentive out of forming Wby cases from conventional brass.

Oh well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

DF

What do you think of REmington brass for the 7mm wby?

I've heard it's OK, don't have a 7 Wby. Mine is a 7RM and Rem brass is OK. It and W/W seem scarce and hard to find.

My concern is when it's available again, it may be priced more like Nosler and Norma, not the old Rem/Win prices we were used to.

Hope I'm wrong.

DF

Going to buy up some Remington Brass for my 7mm WBy and try it

Oeh, I did this for my 7 wea.. I think I used WW.. It was so simple.. 7 REM. brass win, rem, or fed. used to be easy to come by.. Haven't bought any for many years.. It is a bit short, so trimming was necessary with the brass I had..

Seems to be easy to get 7mm WBY brass with a R-P headstamp

Yes you could be right.. I think I went with the reformed 7mm Rem. to avoid a lot of case trimming..

I've been a 300 Wby fan and have owned one for decades, but with the bullets available today that weren't available back then, I can do anything I used to do with a 243 just as well. I really don't see the need for a magnum anything...MV doesn't hang with BC for retained velocity, so for me it's more about handy rifles and great bullets.

I think the same of the 7mm Wby.

84.5 gr's IMR 7828 + 180 gr bullet of your choice = Huckleberry

Have a .257 does everything I need.

Also love my 378 Bee. Took my first bull elk at 778 yards with a 270 gr Hornie at 3175 fps. 118 gr of MRP.

Fotis, is that a typo, 778 yards?

Nope 778 yards. Still got the bullet.

Year after that I killed a nice 5X5 Bull elk at 510 yards with the 300 Hornie SPBT at 3050 fps with IMR 7828.

I've shot the 270Hornie/378 melding,more than all of your Imagination could Pretend.

Pass the 270X.

Hint..................

Lovely five panel Lazermark Fotis.

Beautiful rifle Fotis. Do you still have a shoulder?

Yes sir. I have owned over half a dozen 378's including 2 customs. I have been shooting them since 1992,
Personally for me Stick pass the 250 TTSX at 3200 fps.
No pretend and no imagination when it comes to my 378's.

Soon to start messing with my 375 VM2
350 at 3400 fps or if you want to go to 3k supersonic
414 GS custom (1.2 BC) at 3100 plus fps
Case capacity is 188 gr

If you shot 1% of what you profess volume wise,it'd mitigate 99% of the stupid schit you say.

Funny how it actually works and I mean FUNNY!.................

Thanks buddy! Always nice to read your input. And all of this why? Because ONCE we disagreed on the Montana rifle. You like it I do not!

From that point forward you knew everything about me, all I have done, all the animals I shot, and the # of rounds I shoot yearly, my experience with Weatherbies, LR shooting and et.


Bravo!

You are clueless,day in and day out...with boring regularity.

PLEASE find me "mistaken"...it will be FUNNY!

Hint..............

PS and by the way.

There are yet again lapses in your Imaginary Pretend Ignore.

Just saying.....................

Again because of one single disagreement on the Montana. It worked for you does not for me.

How can I find you wrong on taste? One man's trash is another's treasure. That is the ONLY disagreement we ever had. The rest pretty much jive. Either way.....

I really do not care anymore Larry, really. And I have no idea what pretend ignore or some of your dialogue means.

You are a CLUELESS Idiot time and time again...to the tune of Pretending to Imagine,that you "forget" about Imaginary Pretend Ignore.

HILARIOUS!..................

I sure do like my two MK V's; a 240 and a 7 MM Wby Mag. The MK V action is a bit big for a 240 but is sure is a SLICK action and the 7 Wby mag poops out a 175 Nosler Partition at around 3050 fps.

They were only $450 when I bought them through the Rod and Gun club at Atsugi, Japan in '81.

There you go communication at its finest form.

The good old days! I sure enjoyed the R&G clubs in Germany and Greece when I was stationed there.

So now you are NOT playing Imaginary Pretend Ignore?

Please cite any/all words I use,that are too "big" or too "tricky" for you to cypher and I'll happily use less letters and more simplistic grammar,so as to grant you the stage to further Show Case your incredible Stupidity.

Do tell...............

Lost cause man You do not get it. That is ok, no biggie.

Ahhhhhhhhh...the "dreaded" Secret Squirrel Imaginary Pretend Ignore!

Better fill out another Hurt Feelers Report and mention for the 10,000,000th time how you "don't care",then completely unravel yet again,while Whining for a Moderator.

You know...the usual.

Laughing..................

..................The 257, 7mm and 300 Bees are the more popular of the Bee bunch.

However, a small minority of Bee owners also prefer to own the less popular and more expensive to shoot 338-378 and 340.

FWIW, I don't hand-load, but I bought a 7mm Wby MkV (Ultra LW) last year, and I shot and chronoed various available factory ammo, and they all shot a bit lower than advertised. But the CorBon 160gr TSX load comes out of my barrel at a very consistent velocity averaging 3,238 fps. Sighting in so that it peaks at 150yds at 3" high, it is still moving at about 2,400fps at 350 yds and only about 6" low. Pretty wicked IMO. I wish CorBon would load it the same with a 160gr AB of TTSX, but it's still pretty awesome to me.

That is indeed a formidable load. 160 TSX at 3230 is a nice load!

The Retard Triangle!

You,Hawk and Squeeze...knocking it out of the Park.

Sooooooo laughing!................

I thought bigsqueeze was dead�.

Aren't they all?!?

Laughing!................

or its precursor....





LOL

GWB

........LOL LOL!....Well well! Is it Boxer or Big Stick? One in the same?

Based on your increased # of posts, I see that you have more time on your hands. Unemployed these days by chance? If so, then it couldn't happen to a better guy!!! Retard triangle uh? Such a sense of humor you have.

Can't speak for other two in the triangle of which you speak. But if at any time you happen to be in the So Cal area please look (PM) me up. I'll be more than happy to personally re-arrange the living quarters of the hundreds of crotch crickets that reside between your legs.....

I'm sure your reply will be filled with your usual excellent style of proper english language of this [bleep]-tee-tude and that tee-tude. No matter.

If money is short for ya, I'm sure you could sell a few of your [bleep] looking popsicle painted rifles? Bozo specials. 5 cents of the buck? LOL

A perfect match for an Alaskan clown!

'squeeze,

Didn't mean to horn you up and have you die all over again.

Running on fumes here. Laughing!

Now why don't you Judy Chop yourself in the throat and take a picture of same. I know...I know,cameras are too "tricky",too "fancy",too "expensive" and too life like.

Wow...............

............U running on fumes? I'd say that u are more likely sniffing on the fumes!! LOL!....Oh and uh,,,,,have another another drink!!!!!!!

Judy chop myself??? LOL! LOL! LOL! Never trained to do that. Hmmm!! Perhaps you can show me. I would certainly welcome your personalized in person instruction...Oh yeah! I really would.

Now go fish for your namesake; flounder.

I've been offered a MkV take off barrel in 270 Wby cheap, and it appears with a low round count. Would that be a straight forward installation on my Vanguard S1 magnum long action ? Or does the different lug set up make it a balls-up?

He believes in Jesus so..... just Kidding!

'squeeze,

It's your Imagination,Pretend with it as you must.

Your Pretendfu...Trumps the schit outta your Realityfu.

Congratulations?!?..............

Nope...............

pot meet kettle

It's your business,whatcha' smoke...just keep regaling aloud.

You damned near were brazen enough,to say something about The Rifle.

I mean,it was CLOSE.

Laughing.................

Nope its not a straight forward swap or nope its not a balls-up?

Ya' gonna' need to connect the dots for me again mate.

Nope...never means anything,but nope..................

Beaut.

You'll wanna take it to the Bank.

Hint..................

For me it would be the 340. Fast and flat, and enough juice for really big stuff. One of my wildcats and the rifle I have killed the most game with (well into the hundreds of head of big game, a couple of continents) is essentially a short neck longer bodied 340WBY. 225gr TTSX's at 3100fps are a marvelous combination.

Since I don't have to limit to just one, I also have a 257BEE for deer and similar sized animals. I like that one a lot, too. With the 4 or 5 257WBY's I have owned since the early 80's, 40 or 50 deer at least. Many here have shot more than my number, but IME the 257 WBY is an ideal deer smacker.

what is your load with your 210 TTSX at 3100?

I use 90gr of VV N-165 Fotis. Very accurate.

Nice!!! Thank you sir!

You bet/ Velocity was a bit over 3100, no pressure signs at all and as you can see, accuracy was ok. I also crimped using a Lee Factory Crimp Die. I do that with just about all my reloads now.

Georgie,

Pass the 338Ultra/210XLC at 3400fps...via '22 and twin-lugs.

Hint.............

George we are talking 210 TTSX correct?

Correct.

Thank you sir!