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Posted By: fatjack34 model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/21/10
Very, very nice example. All original. Is $700 a top premium, or a fair price...what would you expect to pay? Thanks ...I know, I am all of the place!
Posted By: 1899sav Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/21/10
A Very, Very Nice Original as You Say? in 250-3000!

700.00 is a very fair price.I.M.O.
steve
Originally Posted by fatjack34
Very, very nice example. All original. Is $700 a top premium, or a fair price...what would you expect to pay? Thanks ...I know, I am all of the place!


Tell me where it is and all your worries and concerns will vanish,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: fatjack34 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/21/10
LBK...that is very big of you!
Posted By: gregintenn Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/21/10
I'd be on it like a duck on a junebug!
Originally Posted by fatjack34
LBK...that is very big of you!


Thank you. Only too happy to help someone out of a dilemma.
Posted By: 99guy Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/21/10
If it's really nice, no extra holes, it's worth at least twice that.

Better get in your truck right now and drive as fast as you can.
Posted By: Loggah Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/21/10
Jack, what have we got to do beat you with a club!!!! grin get on it !!!!!! grin Don
Posted By: fatjack34 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/21/10
I think its toast! Gone! I waited 30 minutes too long! Hey, maybe the stock was refinished! (prolly not!) It was the 1920 version, 90* bolt, very pronounced schnable, pistol grip cap. DAMN! I will know more soon!

BTW...Don...your neck of the woods is getting hammered pretty good right now with storms...better to be in ALASKA!
Posted By: Loggah Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/21/10
I just talked to my house setter,says raining like hell, and lots of lightning, to bad on the 1920 ,ya got to strike when the iron is hot !!!! Don
Originally Posted by Loggah
I just talked to my house setter,says raining like hell, and lots of lightning, to bad on the 1920 ,ya got to strike when the iron is hot !!!! Don


What do you spect from a fireman?????? Little too much pole sliding!!!!!!!!!! grin grin grin
Posted By: 99guy Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/21/10
sleep you lose grin
Posted By: fatjack34 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/22/10
Yup...gone...that was the 1 word answer I got...GONE!

99guy....did you score this dandy? Somebody did, be it locally or from in here...but alas, it is GONE!
Posted By: fatjack34 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/22/10
Here is the rifle....You tell me what you think...was I off base?

http://www.gunsamerica.com/99119427..._ACTION_RIFLE_IN_250_3000_RARE_RIFLE.htm
Posted By: Calhoun Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/22/10
Nope, doubt that rifle lasted more than a couple of hours once it was listed on gunsamerica. Probably headed to Illinois. grin
Posted By: fatjack34 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/22/10
Lasted over night!
Posted By: fatjack34 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/22/10
I don't know if I am glad or sad another campfire member might have it!?!?!?!?!
Posted By: Calhoun Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/22/10
<never mind>
grin
Posted By: 1899sav Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/22/10
Originally Posted by Calhoun
Nope, doubt that rifle lasted more than a couple of hours once it was listed on gunsamerica. Probably headed to Illinois. grin



Rory
Funny. But Wrong.! If i knew i would have been over that in a heart beat. There was another listed on G.A. several weeks back the Guy wanted somethin like 2200.00 plus for it.
Posted By: 99guy Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/22/10
John:

I did not get that one. I didn't see it or it would be on it's way to Pa.

I bought mine at a gun show a while back, in about the same shape but with the receiver sight. Mine might have a little more bluing on it, maybe not

Paid almost twice as much as that and still felt like I stole it.

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Posted By: fatjack34 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/22/10
Thanks guys for all the help! Bottom line, I shouldn't have been such a doubting Thomas. I would have it now if I had just pulled the proverbial trigger...shoulda, coulda, woulda! Going, going, gone! Oh well. There is always another potential find waiting....yeah, right!
Posted By: 1899sav Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/22/10
Originally Posted by 99guy
John:

I did not get that one. I didn't see it or it would be on it's way to Pa.

I bought mine at a gun show a while back, in about the same shape but with the receiver sight. Mine might have a little more bluing on it, maybe not

Paid almost twice as much as that and still felt like I stole it.

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Randy
Good Looking rifle.
Steve
Posted By: tal35 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/24/10
the one on GA I said I would take then had to back out as I ended up getting a root canal that took all the money. Not sure who got it.
Posted By: 99guy Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/24/10
You had to trade a 1920 for a root canal? Ain't that a kick in the crotch!

Bummer!
Posted By: fatjack34 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/24/10
How long ago did you do the deal???? Maybe I can get back in!
Posted By: olgrouser Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/24/10
I guess trying to explain the value of striking while the iron is hot is kind of pointless now.

For the record, the first time I saw a Savage 250-3000 Model 1920 for sale, I gave the seller a small deposit, asked him to put the gun under the table so I could make a telephone call. (in truth, I needed a couple of minutes to begin breath again, empty my shorts, stop shaking and recompose myself before trying to negotiate a price on the rifle) In the end, I got it for $300.-. Now the only way it will leave my possession is when it is pried from my cold dead hand! smile

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Good luck in your hunt!!!
Posted By: fatjack34 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/24/10
blushyou hit it on the head. This is actually the 2nd time I have done this.
Posted By: 1899sav Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/25/10
Originally Posted by olgrouser
I guess trying to explain the value of striking while the iron is hot is kind of pointless now.

For the record, the first time I saw a Savage 250-3000 Model 1920 for sale, I gave the seller a small deposit, asked him to put the gun under the table so I could make a telephone call. (in truth, I needed a couple of minutes to begin breath again, empty my shorts, stop shaking and recompose myself before trying to negotiate a price on the rifle) In the end, I got it for $300.-. Now the only way it will leave my possession is when it is pried from my cold dead hand! smile

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Good luck in your hunt!!!


Bert
That's a Very Nice Looking 1920.
Steve
Posted By: olgrouser Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/25/10
It's still my favorite Savage, Steve. What would it cost me to buy new short action, control feed, sub MOA rifle weighting less than six pounds in todays market?

A couple years later I saw the same dealer at another show and out of the blue I tipped him the last $20.00 we haggled over as the point was now mute.

Someday, I hope to find another in an early 1920 chambered for the .300. How many have you got now? wink
Posted By: 1899sav Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/25/10
Bert
I still have a couple left and couple redone.
Some 250's
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Some 300's
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Some Done Up.
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and 1 with a stith!
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Posted By: steve99 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/25/10
Steve,

Are all the 1920's you pictured above Model 1920's or is the last one in the second pic a 20/26?
1920s are the classiest of rifles. Someday I'm gonna get a 111 action and barrel and stock it like a 1920, except not with quite so much drop in the stock, and a small QD scope for my aged peepers. Probably a .250 (a little more versatile in CA than a .300--really big game is scarce here--a .250 will do blacktails and piggies just fine with the right bullet. And coyotes and ground squirrels don't like 'em either.). Come to think of it, the earliest 110s and 111s looked a little like 1920s.....
Posted By: 99guy Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/25/10
Steve:

Unlike the model 1920's the 20/26's came with the receiver sight and sling swivel studs as standard factory equipment and no dovetail in the barrel for a back sight.

Looks to me like the last one is the second picture was originally a 20/26, but that doesn't look like factory wood to me.

Randy
Posted By: steve99 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/25/10
The heavier wood is what made me think it was a 20/26. That and the ramped front sight.

It's rare to see so many of these in one spot but nice to make comparison between the early and late versions.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/25/10
The only criticism I can muster toward the M20 is the stamped trigger guard. Other than that they're well-nigh perfect. The stocks are configured just right for iron sight use. Given a choice I would vote for Savage to bring it back before the 99.
Posted By: olgrouser Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/25/10
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Given a choice I would vote for Savage to bring it back before the 99.


WOW!!! that's a bold statement! ( I likes it! smile )
Posted By: Lightfoot Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/26/10
At least they did this much...

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/14AMERICANCLASSIC
Posted By: 99guy Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/26/10
Originally Posted by olgrouser
Given a choice I would vote for Savage to bring it back before the 99.


I'd go along with that. But that awful 1920 trigger would have to be replaced by the accu-tigger.
Posted By: Calhoun Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/26/10
They aren't chambered in 250 Savage (crying shame), but you guys should keep an eye out for a pre-1960 Savage 110. Haven't shot mine in 243 yet, and I don't like it as much as my 1920 in 250 for handling, but it's not that far behind. Available in 30-06, 270, 243 and 308 I believe.
A guy that used to work for me had one of those really early 110s in .243, but I could never talk him out of it. Stubborn devil but he could teach calculus to a [bleep]!
Posted By: olgrouser Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/26/10
If the M1920 ever were to be reintroduced, I'd like to see the action trimmed down. A slightly redesigned, more aesthetically pleasing action as opposed to that full round military style action Savage is using today as all that bulk isn't warranted by the a lean round like the 250, not with the good quality steels we have today.

I also agree that mechanically, the M1920 trigger is a flawed. An Accutrigger would be nice improvement. And I still believe Savage would sell a ton of rifles if they choose to develop a proprietary 250 cartridge based on the 250 Ackley. The 1-10 rifling of course.

But in the mean time the M14 250 American Classic and the M1920 are still my go to rifles if I just want to enjoy shooting critters. smile
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/26/10
The trigger is flawed only in the sense that it doubles as the bolt release. The 2-stage pull I can live with, as I've been living with it for about 45 years when shooting Springfields, Mausers, Enfields, etc. I'm just used to it, and don't even think about it.
Posted By: 1899sav Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/26/10
Originally Posted by steve99
Steve,

Are all the 1920's you pictured above Model 1920's or is the last one in the second pic a 20/26?



Steve
Yes you are correct a 20/26 pictured there
Steve




Originally Posted by gnoahhh
The trigger is flawed only in the sense that it doubles as the bolt release. The 2-stage pull I can live with, as I've been living with it for about 45 years when shooting Springfields, Mausers, Enfields, etc. I'm just used to it, and don't even think about it.


Gary
The two-stage as you refer to, or as i call it trigger creep,can be removed with little effort for a clean crisp trigger pull. i have done already 4 of them.
Steve




Posted By: gnoahhh Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/26/10
What did that do to the full sear engagement? The first stage of the pull drops the sear down most of the way out of engagement then the last pull-the second stage- drops it the rest of the way. Also, does eliminating the "creep" effect the overall safety issue of carrying the gun cocked, safety on? Also, would constant battering by the bolt (in it's function as a bolt stop) effect the fine/close engagement of the sear after it is fine-tuned?

One of the reasons the armies went with the two-stage pull a century ago was the huge benefit from having a lot of sear engagement. Think rough usage: running, dropping into firing positions and breaking your fall with the rifle, using it as a club, etc. Less chance for accidental discharge in field use, in other words.
Posted By: lovemy99 Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/26/10
You planning to take your 1920 to war soon Gary??? laugh laugh laugh
Posted By: 1899sav Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/26/10
Originally Posted by gnoahhh
What did that do to the full sear engagement? The first stage of the pull drops the sear down most of the way out of engagement then the last pull-the second stage- drops it the rest of the way. Also, does eliminating the "creep" effect the overall safety issue of carrying the gun cocked, safety on? Also, would constant battering by the bolt (in it's function as a bolt stop) effect the fine/close engagement of the sear after it is fine-tuned?

One of the reasons the armies went with the two-stage pull a century ago was the huge benefit from having a lot of sear engagement. Think rough usage: running, dropping into firing positions and breaking your fall with the rifle, using it as a club, etc. Less chance for accidental discharge in field use, in other words.



Gary
No Effect on the sear engagment and Safty is still there.
It' works, Better yet I'll bring a few for you to Shoot at savage Fest, and then ya can carefully study the adjustment.
\Steve
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: model 1920 in 250-3000 - 07/26/10
Originally Posted by lovemy99
You planning to take your 1920 to war soon Gary??? laugh laugh laugh


Yep! Think Marx Brothers in "Duck Soup".

Steve, looking forward to it.
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