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If the M1920 ever were to be reintroduced, I'd like to see the action trimmed down. A slightly redesigned, more aesthetically pleasing action as opposed to that full round military style action Savage is using today as all that bulk isn't warranted by the a lean round like the 250, not with the good quality steels we have today. I also agree that mechanically, the M1920 trigger is a flawed. An Accutrigger would be nice improvement. And I still believe Savage would sell a ton of rifles if they choose to develop a proprietary 250 cartridge based on the 250 Ackley. The 1-10 rifling of course. But in the mean time the M14 250 American Classic and the M1920 are still my go to rifles if I just want to enjoy shooting critters.
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The trigger is flawed only in the sense that it doubles as the bolt release. The 2-stage pull I can live with, as I've been living with it for about 45 years when shooting Springfields, Mausers, Enfields, etc. I'm just used to it, and don't even think about it.
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Steve,
Are all the 1920's you pictured above Model 1920's or is the last one in the second pic a 20/26? Steve Yes you are correct a 20/26 pictured there Steve The trigger is flawed only in the sense that it doubles as the bolt release. The 2-stage pull I can live with, as I've been living with it for about 45 years when shooting Springfields, Mausers, Enfields, etc. I'm just used to it, and don't even think about it. Gary The two-stage as you refer to, or as i call it trigger creep,can be removed with little effort for a clean crisp trigger pull. i have done already 4 of them. Steve
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What did that do to the full sear engagement? The first stage of the pull drops the sear down most of the way out of engagement then the last pull-the second stage- drops it the rest of the way. Also, does eliminating the "creep" effect the overall safety issue of carrying the gun cocked, safety on? Also, would constant battering by the bolt (in it's function as a bolt stop) effect the fine/close engagement of the sear after it is fine-tuned?
One of the reasons the armies went with the two-stage pull a century ago was the huge benefit from having a lot of sear engagement. Think rough usage: running, dropping into firing positions and breaking your fall with the rifle, using it as a club, etc. Less chance for accidental discharge in field use, in other words.
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What did that do to the full sear engagement? The first stage of the pull drops the sear down most of the way out of engagement then the last pull-the second stage- drops it the rest of the way. Also, does eliminating the "creep" effect the overall safety issue of carrying the gun cocked, safety on? Also, would constant battering by the bolt (in it's function as a bolt stop) effect the fine/close engagement of the sear after it is fine-tuned?
One of the reasons the armies went with the two-stage pull a century ago was the huge benefit from having a lot of sear engagement. Think rough usage: running, dropping into firing positions and breaking your fall with the rifle, using it as a club, etc. Less chance for accidental discharge in field use, in other words. Gary No Effect on the sear engagment and Safty is still there. It' works, Better yet I'll bring a few for you to Shoot at savage Fest, and then ya can carefully study the adjustment. \Steve
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Yep! Think Marx Brothers in "Duck Soup". Steve, looking forward to it.
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