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#2431909 - 09/13/08 Re: Blue Dot or Unique for Light plinking loads in 30-06 [Re: LouisB]
the_shootist Offline
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Registered: 05/21/03
Posts: 19006
Loc: NW Ontario, Canada
Just a quick update. I loaded some Hornady 150 gr FB bullets with 20 gr of Blue dot and seated them to the cannelure. Took them out today and was able to hold minute of pop can at 35 yards off hand. That's just what I wanted for my wife.

I also tried some 134 gr RNL GC bullets with 22 gr of AA5744, and they also held real well. Minute of pop can again at 35 yards. Less recoil with th AA5744 and the lead bullet that the Blue Dot load with the 150 grainer, but they were both real sweet.

Thanks to those who contributed. Got what I was looking for . . . . . . AGAIN! ;\)
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#7794594 - 06/05/13 Re: Blue Dot or Unique for Light plinking loads in 30-06 [Re: Seafire]
Arac Offline
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Registered: 11/20/10
Posts: 966
Loc: British Columbia
Originally Posted By: Seafire
The Nosler Ballistic tip would be a GREAT bullet in these applications, due to it being able to open up at low velocities and be deadly on game. I prefer Round Nose bullets or bullets like Speers Mag Tip also in reduced loads.
Honorable mention will go to 170 grain 30/30 bullets from multiple manufacturers that were design to work in this velocity ranges.

Accuracy with all weights were exceptional.



Seafire - sorry for the necro-post, but your findings really interest me! Have you ever tried Berger hunting bullets with these mild Blue Dot loads? I figure they were designed to open up at quite low velocity so they should work ok, no? The added benefit is the slightly flattened trajectory and higher retained energy. It seems to me that such a combo would be a winner.

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#7796289 - 06/06/13 Re: Blue Dot or Unique for Light plinking loads in 30-06 [Re: Arac]
Seafire Offline
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Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 21293
Loc: Southern Oregon USA
I haven't tried the Berger admittedly.. but if you have some, I am sure a local tree or two would give you the info you are looking for.. I typically look for what the exit looks like on a diameter of 10 inches or so of wood....

if I have a big exit, with wood blown into strips about 6 to 8 inches above and below the exit hole, then I consider that good to go..

yesterday I was testing some 90 grain ballistic tips, with an MV of 3400 fps, into a pine or two at 100 yds....all I can say is WOW!!! now I have to evaluate if the load might be too quick, and result into a lot of blood shot meat on a blacktail..

would definitely take down a good sized cow elk...or a black bear of good size... the exit looked like the back of the pine had been hit with a rocket launcher...

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#7798268 - 06/06/13 Re: Blue Dot or Unique for Light plinking loads in 30-06 [Re: Seafire]
Eremicus Offline
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Registered: 03/01/01
Posts: 18881
Loc: Placerville,CA,USA
Just for additional information, my old Dupont Handloader's Guide lists the 150 gr. bullet in the '06 with a maximum of 31 grs. of SR 4759, 30 grs. for IMR 4227 and 38 grs. for IMR 4198. Velocities run 2365 fps for 4759, 2310 fps. for 4227 and 2600 fps. for 4198. All of these are maximum loads at 50,000 CUP. E

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#7798855 - 06/07/13 Re: Blue Dot or Unique for Light plinking loads in 30-06 [Re: Eremicus]
ldholton Offline
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Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 3815
Loc: lawrence county MO
Suprised no one yet has said anything about Trialboss yet it does work well for many

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#7799254 - 06/07/13 Re: Blue Dot or Unique for Light plinking loads in 30-06 [Re: ldholton]
Seafire Offline
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Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 21293
Loc: Southern Oregon USA
Trail Boss duplicates black powder loads, or around 1200 to 1300 fps max...its a bulky alternative to Unique.

Blue Dot will duplicate 30/30 velocities in a lot of calibers say from 257 Roberts and up, with deer bullets commonly used..

SR 4759 will give you a little more...

4227 is most accurate with 223 sized cases on down, same as 2400..

4198 kinda picks up where 4759 starts topping out..

all are good for reduced recoil and reduced velocity, yet can be loaded up to say the pressures used in old per 1898 Mausers...

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#7800035 - 06/07/13 Re: Blue Dot or Unique for Light plinking loads in 30-06 [Re: Seafire]
Arac Offline
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Registered: 11/20/10
Posts: 966
Loc: British Columbia
Seafire - how do the gr/cc compare of SR 4759, Blue Dot, and 4198 compare? I'm going to try and find some accurate ~2400-2600fps loads in my 7mm RM and .30-06 using 120-150gr jacketed bullets. I noted your Blue Dot loads from the 7mm RM thread, and they look pretty darned good.

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#7800046 - 06/07/13 Re: Blue Dot or Unique for Light plinking loads in 30-06 [Re: the_shootist]
ALLongshot Offline
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Registered: 02/21/12
Posts: 898
Loc: Alabama
Heres another question on this subject. My 8yr old son wants to shoot "Daddys" 30.06
I have some Speer 110gr RN Carbine bullets and Unique and Hercules 2400. Blue dot is nowhere to be found here right now.
Just looking for something that will punch holes in paper at 50yds and maybe armadillos or coyotes one day
What would be a good load for this?

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#8406760 - 12/30/13 Re: Blue Dot or Unique for Light plinking loads in 30-06 [Re: ALLongshot]
MoranoGrande Offline
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Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 669
Loc: South Texas
Great topic, thanks for all the load info!

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#8410970 - 12/31/13 Re: Blue Dot or Unique for Light plinking loads in 30-06 [Re: ALLongshot]
Eremicus Offline
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Registered: 03/01/01
Posts: 18881
Loc: Placerville,CA,USA
I'd try some of the cast bullet data for those powders. Just keep in mind that you should be very careful approaching the maximum listed loads for them. Cast lead bullets generate, usually, less pressure than jacketed bullets.
For Unique with a 122 gr. cast bullet, starting load is 13 grs. for 1824 and max is 18 grs. for 2207 fps.
For 2400, starting load is 18 grs. for 1685 fps. and max is 32 grs. for 2617 fps.
Frankly, since maximum for a 110 gr. jacketed bullet with IMR 4227 is also 32 grs., I'd stay away from the maximum load listed here with 2400. E

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