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#2980208 - 04/21/09 08:59 AM So, when you lung shoot a deer...
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So when you lung shoot a deer and it runs off, do you assume you hit it solidly, and just watch it run? I don't have the confidence to do this - usually I'm shooting at running deer (in front of dogs) and almost always through brush. Too many things can go wrong for me to be confident on my first shot. Only once have I held off and that was on a buck that I could see was leaking like a garden hose at 50+ yards. I watched him go another 100 yards and collapse.

I am a shoulder shooter and it's not that I'm a poor hunter - it's just that I tend to shoot at deer until they are down (maybe that's weird, but that's how I was taught). If I'm going to do that, the way to waste least meat is to put it down on the first shot.

Most of my deer hunting is done with a .444. Normally I use the 265 grain loads, but for quite a few years they were unavailable (factory), so I used .240 grains... The 265 grains are not that bad, but the 240 grains make a mess of the shoulder - but less of a mess that if I shoot through the lungs and then a couple shots in the rump as it runs away.

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#2980244 - 04/21/09 09:11 AM Re: So, when you lung shoot a deer... [Re: Reiche]
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Not real shure what your asking.

If I shot at a running deer I'd keep shooting cause I'd not be overly confident on the shot. All the deer I've shot in the lungs did not go very far. Keep in mind they were not being chased by dogs either.
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#2980264 - 04/21/09 09:21 AM Re: So, when you lung shoot a deer... [Re: Kaleb]
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shows to go ya....

there's all different kinds of hunting.

Up here if we saw a dog chasing a running deer we'd shoot the dog first then the deer.



don't take that wrong, nobody wants to shoot your dog. We just can't hunt that way up here so we would assume certain responsibilities to put a stop to a deer chasing dog.

our running deer are usually running because of a "drive" effort.

Lots of groups organize drives to get deer moving.

I don't, I still hunt & stand hunt.

But I have shot at running deer & elk & in that case I too focus on the shoulder & shoot till I know the animal isn't going to get away from me wounded.

when I stand hunt or still hunt & I am aforded a confident still or walking shot I do my best to lung shoot just behind the shoulder.
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#2980294 - 04/21/09 09:34 AM Re: So, when you lung shoot a deer... [Re: Reiche]
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 Originally Posted By: Reiche
So when you lung shoot a deer and it runs off, do you assume you hit it solidly, and just watch it run?


Mostly yes. A good bunch of them never make more than a few steps, most not more than 30 yds. When hunting from a stand (or a perch ast Steelhead put it), and shooting at a deer 30 yds away with a rest I generally feel pretty comfortable with my shots.

If I am not confidant of the shot.. then I keep shooting until their down or I can't see them anymore.
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#2980367 - 04/21/09 10:09 AM Re: So, when you lung shoot a deer... [Re: noKnees]
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Pretty much the same as noKnees. I hunt tree stands almost exclusively in Jersey and the Catskills of NY. Shots are generally close and the deer unalarmed, so it's not difficult to get that perfect broadside shot.

30-06, 6MM, 270, 12GA foster slug, 12GA sabot slug, round ball muzzleloader, sabot muzzleloader or arrow, the all seem to react pretty much the same, if you get that broadside shot right behind the shoulder only damaging a rib going in & out, they take off like a bat, go 30-35 yards and drop. If you listen, you can actually hear them drop.

Only exception I've seen is with an arrow, I've shot several with a perfect broadside shot and put the arrow right through them, they jump or flinch, then stand there alert, or start taking a few steps like they're going to sneak out of the area and fall over after a few steps. One actually went back to feeding and was chewing as he fell over.
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#2980376 - 04/21/09 10:12 AM Re: So, when you lung shoot a deer... [Re: Reiche]
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When we used to do drives, you shot til they dropped. I hunt in slug zone, & an unaware deer hit with a .73 caliber projectile weighing an ounce or more generally show signs of being hit if they're hit well. These days, I use a muzzle loader for everything, and have yet to need a second shot with it.

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#2980384 - 04/21/09 10:15 AM Re: So, when you lung shoot a deer... [Re: wink_man]
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I jack another shell in as fast as I can, but out of the mere 20 or so deer I've killed, only ONE even gave me the chance for a 2nd shot anyway... it's just so thick around here, they dissapear fast.

I have generally chosen the cartridge and bullet I use to minimize meat damage, and I generally try to NOT shoot them in the shoulder. That all went the hell in a handbasket this year, when I shot a buck through the... uh... rear shoulder. Ooops.
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#2980409 - 04/21/09 10:25 AM Re: So, when you lung shoot a deer... [Re: Jeff_O]
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It's that 30-35 yards after the shot thing... That's probably time for another couple of shots and if it's running straight away, it's not going to be pretty.

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#2980421 - 04/21/09 10:27 AM Re: So, when you lung shoot a deer... [Re: Jeff_O]
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rear shoulder. TFF!!

i have to remember that one
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#2980449 - 04/21/09 10:38 AM Re: So, when you lung shoot a deer... [Re: Reiche]
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 Originally Posted By: Reiche
It's that 30-35 yards after the shot thing... That's probably time for another couple of shots and if it's running straight away, it's not going to be pretty.


It's pretty thick where I hunt, generally a bound or 2 and the cover has swollowed them up, very little opportunity for a second shot or third shot.

Practice, have confidence in your shooting ability, make the first shot like it's the only shot you'll get, and listen to him drop right after the cover swallows him up.
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