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#3110898 - 06/18/09 Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent
Dancing Bear Offline
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Registered: 11/26/05
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Loc: Portland, Ore
Is there anything wrong with the Sierra Designs tipi style Tarp tent called the Origami 4 UL?

It is available for $229 shipped and that includes a floor.

It is slightly taller [89 in tall vs 72 in] and much cheaper than a Shangri-La 4 which is the other tent I am considering. I would like to have a teepee style LW tent I could put a stove in for an occasional long weekend. Sew a stove jack in the back and install a small Kni-Co stove.

I have two wall tents and have gotten quite fond of a wood stove.

We haul our camp around on closed roads with bike trailers and hacve actually hauled in a conventional 12x14 wall tent and camp.

My knee is still sore from doing so.Anyway if my arithmetic is right I can be in the tent with a stove and jack for just a little over $400.00

If there is a downside to the tent it is that they don't make a "nest for it".

I would appreciate any help I can get on this. I want to start on the project this month.

One of the three of us can't go elk hunting. The other one can't go for deer so I am looking at a camp for two instead of one for 3-5.

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#3111012 - 06/18/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: Dancing Bear]
fishnhuntfreak Offline
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i cant help you with the origami as i have no experience with it but do you have any pic's/info on your bike trailer set up that you could post?


Edited by fishnhuntfreak (06/18/09)

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#3111626 - 06/19/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: fishnhuntfreak]
Dancing Bear Offline
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No, but I can e-mil some. Jeff O posted some a few years ago. PM me with your e-mail and I'll send you some.

The trailers are:
1. A Blue Sky, pre plastic rims and take down feature,It is
the orange one. My favorite because of the 24 in tires.

2. A Cabela's Magnum game hauler with a tow bar copied from the blue Sky. The earlier one was from the huffy and was too flexible. The original hard rubber tires are gone and it now wears pneumatic tires.

3. Older Huffy bike trailer. We buy them for $25-50 repack the bearings and as opportunities present convert them to 20 inch tires with 3/4 inch shoulder bolts. Some came with 1/2 inch shoulder bolts. We also put quickly removable pins where possible to speed breakdown.

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#3111994 - 06/19/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: Dancing Bear]
mlaux Offline
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I have an Origami with a Tigoat cylinder stove. It's not a bad setup but it has two weaknesses. The pole is weak and it is difficult to get a low pitch with it.


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#3112051 - 06/19/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: mlaux]
rayporter Offline
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dancing bear
i have a megamid type for sale that looks just like the pic above. it is 9x9 and 6 ft hi. 80 bucks and like new. put in a stove jack and you are hot. it weighs 2 lb 7 oz. sans pole. i just cut a pole on site. cut it as strong as you want.

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#3112085 - 06/19/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: rayporter]
Dancing Bear Offline
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Thanks Ray,

I think I am going to try the Origami as it has the 89 in height.

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#3112090 - 06/19/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: mlaux]
Dancing Bear Offline
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I have an Origami with a Tigoat cylinder stove. It's not a bad setup but it has two weaknesses. The pole is weak and it is difficult to get a low pitch with it.

It looks great. I think I will go for it.

Thank you.

I have a magnesium adjustable pole from an old 1951 Artic 13x13 tent that finally rotted out/tore up in the wind.

I assume you sewed in a Ti Goat Jack?

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#3114525 - 06/20/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: Dancing Bear]
mlaux Offline
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Registered: 07/12/07
Posts: 42
I cheated on the stove jack. I made an attemp to sew it in but quickly realized that I was never going to get there. I decided to glue it in place using GE silicone II and it work perfectly. It may be a slighly heavier than sewing but it's hard to screw it up.

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#3115603 - 06/21/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: mlaux]
rayporter Offline
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if you are concerned about the "low pitch" and are going to add a stove jack you can also add a sod flap. just like they have on wall tents. a 12 in addition adds a few ounces but allows you to seal the bottom. i have done this before and it helps. you can put dirt or stuff on the flap to seal air out and not worry about the main tent getting a hole.

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#3115638 - 06/21/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: rayporter]
pointer Offline
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Loc: Indiana
mlaux- Any interior pics? I'm thinking of setting my Orgami 2 up similarly, but am thinking of getting the stove a bit farther towards the side. I'd just like to see how yours is set up.

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#3115853 - 06/21/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: mlaux]
WoodsWalker Offline
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 Originally Posted By: mlaux
I have an Origami with a Tigoat cylinder stove. It's not a bad setup but it has two weaknesses. The pole is weak and it is difficult to get a low pitch with it.



nice job. \:\)

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#3116329 - 06/21/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: pointer]
mlaux Offline
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Registered: 07/12/07
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Not a great interior pic but it will give you an idea.


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#3116337 - 06/21/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: mlaux]
pointer Offline
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Thanks!! That helps a bunch! I'm thinking if I can place it a bit closer to the wall it might make room for 2 in a pinch and will make for a nice 'gear room' when alone.

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#3116441 - 06/21/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: pointer]
mlaux Offline
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It will be real tight with two in the small oragami. It is amazing how things that can melt gravitate to the stove in confined quarters.

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#3116600 - 06/22/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: mlaux]
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What are the specs as to how close can you have a stove jack down the pitch / how close to the perimeter or wall? Depends on the size of stove/size of interior? Does it need to be in the middle? Just wondering. Could extra fire retardant material be sewn or silicone onto the tent fabric to get the stove more out of the way?
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#3117163 - 06/22/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: Bootsfishing]
mlaux Offline
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The problem with getting low in the pitch is that the tent is what provides the stove pipe support. If you get too low then the stove pipe has leverage over the stove and that can get dangerous inside.

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#3117246 - 06/22/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: mlaux]
pointer Offline
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Loc: Indiana
 Originally Posted By: mlaux
It will be real tight with two in the small oragami. It is amazing how things that can melt gravitate to the stove in confined quarters.
I hear ya. Two would be a rare situation.

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#3118583 - 06/23/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: fishnhuntfreak]
RDMartin53 Offline
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Loc: Montana
 Originally Posted By: fishnhuntfreak
i cant help you with the origami as i have no experience with it but do you have any pic's/info on your bike trailer set up that you could post?


On the topic of bike trailers the Amish use them quite a bit up here. Ones I have seen were aluminum.

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#3122994 - 06/25/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: RDMartin53]
ShawnRyan Offline
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Registered: 06/20/09
Posts: 133
Loc: SW Washington
Fishhuntfreak, You might find this link helpful: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,27615.0.html. It is a forum in WA. I've posted some photos of our bike and trailer combos and so have others. Like, Dancing Bear we usually hunt closed logging roads but in SW WA, just across the river from him. We've hauled in camp, including a large wood stove and 12 x 18 wall tent with steel internal frame, on the bikes and trailers. This past year it was a 9 mile, one-way trip because a slide closed more of the road. The trailers make it all possible.

Dancing Bear, just last night I purchased a Shangri La 4 for $225 at backcountry.com and a Ti-Goat stove jack. I like the height of the Origami and wish I had read your post earlier. I have a Sierra Designs Baku, but was unaware of the Origami. I had considered Kifaru, Go-Lite, TarpTent, Ti-Goat, Intregal Designs, Big Agnes, and a few other "back packing" tents. I'm hoping for a good ground seal with the Shangri La when needed. For a stove, I have been fortunate enough to connect with Ed T. on this site who has offered to make me a stove for a good price. He has 4 different sized Shangri La's and a variety of stoves he has built. Some of his stove designs break down so they are easier to pack than a traditional sheepherder. I considered those, too, until I found the collapsible kind.

I know a woman in Vancouver who used to do all of REI's sewing repairs. She repaired a tent for me last year at a reasonable price. I intend to have her sew in my stove jack. If you want someone to do that for you, I could run down her contact information (since I have to dig it up in a few days for myself anyway).

Because of severe winter-kill from '07-'08 in our usual hunt area, we have purchased OR tags and will be hunting the Eagle Cap without the bikes and trailers this year. What area do you hunt? I live in Battle Ground and work in Portland. We usually hunt east and north of Mt. St. Helens.

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#3123294 - 06/25/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: ShawnRyan]
Dancing Bear Offline
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I don't know about a tight seal to the ground without a footprint. Pile some sow on it or make a little sod cloth I suppose.

When we can get tags, which we did this year [second season spike only] we hunt Sled Springs.

It is adjacent to your hunt in the Eagle Caps. Are you entering the Eagle Caps through the Lostine River-Allen Canyon access point?

Good Luck,

Gary

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#3123483 - 06/25/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: Dancing Bear]
ShawnRyan Offline
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Registered: 06/20/09
Posts: 133
Loc: SW Washington
Dancing Bear/Gary,

We archery hunt, so the tags are not an issue. We are looking at 2 areas. One would be off the Lostine canyon, headed west up and over the ridge to the Minam/Bear Creek ridge or near Big Minam Meadows. The second would be on the far east side on either side of the Imnaha Divide, east of the Wallowa River canyon.

Are there good closed roads on public land in Sled Springs? I looked at that area (maps and internet), but was unsure of the hunting pressure. Its our first year in OR, so we don't know much.

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#3125061 - 06/26/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: ShawnRyan]
Dancing Bear Offline
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Registered: 11/26/05
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Loc: Portland, Ore
There are multiple cooperative road closures in the Sled Springs Unit, the largest is the Nooregaard Closure.

It is excellent old man's country. Our hunt areas tend to be at about 4,000 feet and a couple of the entry routes involve about a 1,000 foot elevation change. relatively easy for a fair chance at a branch bull when you get a tag.

Lot's of pole thickets to entertain those of us who hunt our elk like we hunt blacktails.

We hunt the famous zone between the candy bar wrappers and the tents with hay stacked near them for the horses.

Gary

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#3125134 - 06/26/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: Dancing Bear]
ShawnRyan Offline
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Registered: 06/20/09
Posts: 133
Loc: SW Washington
Not to get back to your posted question too quickly, but have you made a decision on a tent and stove combo? I asked Ed if he was willing to make a stove for others, he said "yes" depending on his time. He told me he designed and built the Kifaru stoves for 7 years. I've also seen his cylinder stove design on this forum. The man has talent and skills. Between him and Ti-Goat, I'm real happy with my proposed stove setup--haven't laid hands on any of it, yet.

If you like a hot meal while away from the tent, check out https://www.end2endtrailsupply.com/Stoves.html. He makes a fascinating alcohol stove for $10. I've read lots of posts on how to make a pop-can alcohol stove, but his is the smallest and for $10, you can't beat the price. I'll be heating some water on one of those this fall.

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#3136727 - 07/02/09 Re: Sierra Designs Origami 4 Tipi Tent [Re: ShawnRyan]
timat46 Offline
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Registered: 09/27/08
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Loc: Washington
Shawn,when you get that rig set up in your yard the first time please post some pictures. Tim

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