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My concern is they will ram some restriction on all firearms and age of use down our throats. Guaranteed to happen now in California, Connecticut , Maryland, New York and New jersey.
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My concern is they will ram some restriction on all firearms and age of use down our throats. Guaranteed to happen now in California, Connecticut , Maryland, New York and New jersey. "Never let a serious crisis go to waste." - Rahm Israel Emanuel
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I would hope to never find myself in a battle armed with a Micro-UZI. They're the epitome of worthless. Cyclic rate is WAY too high, they're very difficult to control for any sort of meaningful accuracy. It's basically a machine pistol and just like all other machine pistols; worthless.
I guess with an extended shoulder stock on semi-auto it's better than nothing. I've never fired a Uzi of any type but from the you tube videos I saw I would have to agree. The full size Uzi especially with the solid wood stock would probably be good for close range work.
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The reason the military went to a three round burst is that full auto is too hard to control, and shots after 3 or 4 are usually off target.
At best, he should have put 4 rounds in the mag just to ensure all rounds fired were down range.
Again, this is only a disaster for us if we let it be one.
“Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General John Stark.
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The reason the military went to a three round burst is that full auto is too hard to control, and shots after 3 or 4 are usually off target. No, the reason the Army had FN install that idiotic 3-shot burst is because a bunch of non-shooting moron officers thought it was a good idea. That is the same reason we got stuck (and still are) stuck with that stupid 92F. Non-morons who knew how to run a pistol specced the 92G, or a different gun entirely.
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I would hope to never find myself in a battle armed with a Micro-UZI. They're the epitome of worthless. Cyclic rate is WAY too high, they're very difficult to control for any sort of meaningful accuracy. It's basically a machine pistol and just like all other machine pistols; worthless.
I guess with an extended shoulder stock on semi-auto it's better than nothing. I've never fired a Uzi of any type but from the you tube videos I saw I would have to agree. The full size Uzi especially with the solid wood stock would probably be good for close range work. Around here, and perhaps elsewhere, we call these types of autos the 50/50ties...when asked why we say ya got a 50% chance of hitting the target and 50% chance of shooting yourself. Now I'm not saying folks shouldn't have em' just saying that without a lot of experience the full auto recoil will take you by surprise. Not a lot to hang onto.
Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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The reason the military went to a three round burst is that full auto is too hard to control, and shots after 3 or 4 are usually off target. No, the reason the Army had FN install that idiotic 3-shot burst is because a bunch of non-shooting moron officers thought it was a good idea. That is the same reason we got stuck (and still are) stuck with that stupid 92F. Non-morons who knew how to run a pistol specced the 92G, or a different gun entirely. Wrong, again.
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I got to say about this little political / media event which certainly seems to be gathering momentum.
......The shootee was NOT an "Instructor". He was a sideshow barker at a roadside carnival / freak show.
Calling him an instructor is just flat WRONG.
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Yep. His job was to get money into the till, nothing more.
And yes, I see this was one of those "shoot a machine gun!" places advertised all over Vegas.
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I got to say about this little political / media event which certainly seems to be gathering momentum.
......The shootee was NOT an "Instructor". He was a sideshow barker at a roadside carnival / freak show.
Calling him an instructor is just flat WRONG.
GTC crossfire; Top of the morning to you sir, I trust this Labour Day weekend - spelled that way in honour of your expat status - finds you well. Since I've been teaching the BC Hunter Safety course for more than two decades now, was an active certified PAL instructor and have been range officer at "shooting days" open to the public at our gun club, I've got to guess that I'm responsible for being the first time instructor for hundreds of folks now. When I watched that video for the first time I was shaking my head and muttering at the screen crossfire - much like the recent vid of the guy whipping the horse - one knew it was a disaster in the making. Anyway thanks for the confirmation this unfortunate fellow wasn't a trained instructor as that makes more sense, though it's a stark reminder to us who do instruct that when we're on the hot range there are no "do overs". Again much like handling horses in the mountains it strikes me. Thanks again and all the best to you this Labour Day weekend sir. Stay safe down there in your border homelands. Dwayne
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BC30cal: And best of wishes to all Canadians here, near the end of summer - start of fall. One of the very few things I miss about living in Seattle was the large number of decent and hard working Canadian folk that came down to visit and recreate in the Puget Sound area. Where I live now I see very few Canadians camping or visiting - they do come through here on Interstae 15 by the hundreds of thousands but they are all heading south for sunbird country or Las vegas. Again best wishes to all Canadians - you are very good neighbors! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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The reason the military went to a three round burst is that full auto is too hard to control, and shots after 3 or 4 are usually off target.
At best, he should have put 4 rounds in the mag just to ensure all rounds fired were down range.
Again, this is only a disaster for us if we let it be one.
Yup, that's what they told us too. Said it was to hard to teach us dummies to fire 3-4 round bursts.
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