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Originally Posted by 6mm250
Bell & Elmer Keith should have met , Elmer could have learned something.



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Elmer would have been too busy, "teaching"... blush

Don't think he'd have been in "student mode", if you get my drift... cool

Example: JOC's tutorials... whistle

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. About three pages long,and other than our modern wazoo bullets, it is STILL all you need to know about rifles .


Wazoo bullets?? Are those the ones capable of penetrating end-to-end AKA "Texas heart shots?"


Yes. Exactly. grin


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Originally Posted by 6mm250
Bell & Elmer Keith should have met , Elmer could have learned something.



Mike



I think Elmer would have learned that Bell didn't suffer fools.


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Elmer's writings on African rifles, cartridges, and bullets make for wonderful reading...true classics in every sense of the word.

Reading it, I am reminded that a lot of it was written before Elmer set foot in Africa. In fact, JOC shot more African game with more cartridges than Elmer ever did. The same could be said for his wife ,Eleanor.

I mentioned this to an Elmer zealot in a discussion about the 338 and elk hunting...the guy about turned purple he got so mad. smile




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Bumped back for reference.


"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Originally Posted by RevMike

It reminds me of another writer, Kenneth Anderson. He used a .405 Winchester to hunt man-eaters in southern India not long after Corbett was in northern India. He even shot a few rogue elephants himself. Great stories.


I 've enjoyed Anderson's very much, but I've heard rumours
that some of the stories he tells were somewhat "embroidered"

What ever the truth, he always struck me as a very "average" chap who worked for a living, rather one of the rich upper classes.

I thinks this is in part why he used a lever action .405win at least in his early career. Ammunition availability and cost was another factor...

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There are some pretty close parallels between his stories and Corbett's as well. But as you say, they're still enjoyable.

As for the .405, his son Donald said that he was just an old-timer using an old-timer's gun. Kids!!


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Thanks to Pete, I too enjoy Anderson's books and of course, the 405 makes it all the more for me smile

On a separate note Pete, just got through finishing both of Col Snook's books on the AZWs, spcifically Isandwahlna and Rorke's Drift which has always fsacinated me. Good stuff!


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