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here is some pertinent info on USMC sniper scopes regarding S&B and NF for that matter

http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/optics/10721-m8541-ssds-problems.html

I dont pretend to be a sniper on the internet or anywhere else, i cant imagine either brand not holding up for the average hunter/turret spinner...

i had a pre-zenith S&B 1.5-6x42 fall (about 6 feet) out of my hand climbing a ladder to get into a tree stand. The scope fell top side first and landed on the top of the scope (ocular bell actually), i picked it up and 2 hours later shot 2 deer at 200 yards so I guess that bump didnt cause it to lose its zero...i usually dont throw my equipment around and drag it through the mud and mount it to atv tires and drive it underwater, so Im hoping to avoid some of these "issues"


here is a comment from above thread and I still wonder how much Premier had to do with the faulty S&B's

"The M8541 is extremely durable and it is hardly a case of the lowest bidder. I've personally tested one by dropping it from 8+ feet onto a concrete and gravel mix, tossing it, submerging it in 3 feet of water for two hours, hammer tent stakes, and dragging it behind my Jeep for 25 yards. In the end there was only cosmetic damage to the optic with no damage to the internals that affected image quality or tracking. In fact I threw the same optic on a bolt gun, zeroed it, and shot a match with it, taking 5th place."

I'm waving a HUGE bullschidt flag. There is a reason that MSG's Lambert and Boucher specced the M24 with back-up irons. There is such a thing as a rugged, well-designed scope. There is no such thing as an indestructible scope.

did you read the thread or just that quote, the thread addresses the issues some of the first 2 gens of M8541 had

pics they refer to arent coming up on my ipad but apparently they were there at one time

http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/optics/9506-s-what-s-inside-counts.html

I did not read the thread I merely responded to the quote you posted.

No, it's just that I've never sent him one. PM's are gay.

FWIW I have a 4-16x50 PMII purchased from PR. It had to go to S&B in VA because it would not hold a zero. That was about 2 years ago but its been OK since then. If I have to ever send it back again it will get sent down the road.

GEEZ, looks like those military dickheads were correct. Who'da thunk it?

If you're an example of one, then no one.

If you must twist a knob.
http://www.eurooptic.com/schmidt-bender-10x42-pm-iI-riflescope.aspx
If you must twist a knob thats a variable.
http://www.eurooptic.com/schmidt-bender-pmii-4-16x42-l-p-p3-mildot-mrad-st-cw.aspx
Looking at it a bit differently.
I'd buy this thing.
http://www.eurooptic.com/schmidt-bender-classic-3-12x42-a9-rifle-scope-like-new-demo.aspx
I'd send it in and have the A9 reticle replaced with a TDS.
S&B still does install this reticle.
Learn how to use the TDS and kill stuff instead of spending the time clicken and dicken.

dave