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A fuel source can be introduced in a number of ways, doesn't change the fact that the tank exploded. It doesn't matter how it exploded it still exploded which you said doesn't happen.
Go to YouTube and look up exploding O2 tanks... lots of explosions to watch. A bullet at 2500fps might create a spark or two ventilating a steel tank.
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Your going to get yelled at by the know it all if you keep making sence.
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I was always amazed at how many sparks you'd see from bullets just hitting clay berms at night.
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That is almost as fantastic as the story in the Des Moines paper a few years back about an idiot who tried to steal anhydrous ammonia by breaking off the locked valve. The escaping product struck him in the front, just a bit below his belt buckle. Sometimes justice serves itself very well. _________________________
My father saw a guy have the same problem with Propane. Said it didn't end well...........
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Your going to get yelled at by the know it all if you keep making sence. What is "sence"?
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Sounds like some of the guys here might know the answer to this question: How does the explosive force of one stick of dynamite compare to a U.S. fragmentation grenade? RE Factor is the info you need. You'll have to look up the explosive filler for whatever hand grenade. Should be able to figure it out from there. Here's a link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_effectiveness_factor So, anyone know how much of what explosive is in a hand-grenade and how much a stick of dynamite weighs?
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I do know that a trash bag filled with acetylene and oxygen, taped to one of those old traffic light control boxes with a gasoline trail "fuse," would knock out the lights. That mixture in a trash bag will go off prematurely by static electricity or magic or something. Glad I wasn't there that day. It resulted in loss of hearing, ringing in heads for many days, burnt beards, etc.
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Any pressurized vessel can explode whether it holds steam or any pressurized gas. Shake up a soda can and shoot it and it will explode, though the contents certainly won't burn.
An explosion is the rapid chemical reaction or burning that creates either a subsonic pressure wave, a deflagration, or a supersonic pressure wave, a detonation. The fuel and oxidizer can be solid, liquid or gas or a combination of states.
Hence oxygen will not cause an explosion unless there is a fuel at the proper ratio and a heat source to ignite it.
Also you do not need pure oxygen for an explosion, mix methane at 5% with 95% air, add an ignition source and you will get an explosion. If you want a more energetic explosion mix roughly 1 part methane to 5 parts oxygen.
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Releasing compressed pure oxygen into a cloud of flammable particulates is a good recipe for a fireball and explosion. While it's true that oxygen doesn't burn, it is a terrific oxidizer (which was the cause of the tragic Apollo capsule fire - where quite probably, aluminum wiring ignited in the presence of a pure oxygen atmosphere. Of course, aluminum doesn't burn either - in a natural earth atmosphere of 20% oxygen.)
Anyone who doesn't believe that dust/particulates/ fine detritus can explode hasn't paid much attention to the horrible explosions that have happened in numerous grain elevators over the years. Add pure oxygen to that combination and a spontaneous explosion isn't too surprising.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Your going to get yelled at by the know it all if you keep making sence. What is "sence"? "So Fred, you think oxygen is explosive and /or lamable?" It the same thing as lamable. You really are a little man if your going to start pointing out spelling and punctuation errors to avoid the fact you are wrong and saying sorry.
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"So Fred, you think oxygen is explosive and /or lamable?"
It the same thing as lamable.
Oh, c'mon! We all know what he was referring to with "explosive and /or lam able"�. That's what happens when when you misjudge distance and manage to drop a cup and core into a leg of your quarry and it explodes and makes the critter lame. Generally you can expect to expend plenty of oxygen in the subsequent pursuit. This stuff ain't rocket science. (Prove me wrong; I dare you. )
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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