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The last thing I would do is let them remove my prostate, there are worst things than dying. Care to explain the thought process? Since he didn't respond, I will...there's absolutely no way in hell I'll allow anything to be removed if it involves having to deal with a colostomy bag...Maybe if I were younger, but going on 65, I don't think the payoff would be worth the price especially if I had to endure chemo & or radiation. I've watched too many friends & family spend their last few years in absolute misery going through the process...ymmv
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Quality of life IS a big deal, for sure.
But, not doing cancer surg can result in a horrible death.
So, until you've seen the alternative, you can't make a valid case.
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Best wishes for your brother. At 40 I asked my day doc if I needed it and he said no not until 50. Now my 49 year old cousin has been diagnosed. I need a new doc...
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The last thing I would do is let them remove my prostate, there are worst things than dying. Care to explain the thought process? Some people would prefer death to loosing their sex life. If I had to choose between living or getting a hard on I will choose life. I get checked every 6 months and had two biopsy because of high PSA numbers. So far no signs of cancer, just an enlarged prostate. +1 million Dr is a recent Grad of Wake Forest and tells me that biopsies cause more issues then they help. Only disagreement I have with him is that he relies entirely too much on the PSA test and not examining the prostrate to see how swollen it is. All the other Dr's I have had have done both tests. Had a friend at work who developed it in his fifties, he was operated via a DaVinci machine and he said there was minimal pain and recovery.
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Just a little update, My brother had his surgery last Tuesday and is doing fine the robotic surgery went very smooth and quick the Dr expects a complete and quick healing process...the pathology results look good and they don't anticipate Radiation treatments....Thank You all again for your Prayers ! Great News
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My Doc says the bad news is if you are male and you live long enough, you'll probably get prostate cancer. The good news is that for most of us it's slow growing enough that we'll die of something else.
My Doctor said the exact same thing. So I get the finger and PSA test annually. Last year it was 0.6 , so far so good.  ; I pray things go okay for your brother.
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Great news and more best wishes for your brother.
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Great news and wishing a speedy recovery . I decided on both the PSA and " Golden Digit " Exam whether it's covered or not . The Digit/ Finger Test always makes me jump a little no matter how prepared I am . Last time I told my Urologist : " I would much rather be Fishing " . He replied " So would I " ! Reminds me of the old saying : " If you're not the lead Sled Dog , the scenery never changes " .
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The last thing I would do is let them remove my prostate, there are worst things than dying. Care to explain the thought process? Since he didn't respond, I will...there's absolutely no way in hell I'll allow anything to be removed if it involves having to deal with a colostomy bag...Maybe if I were younger, but going on 65, I don't think the payoff would be worth the price especially if I had to endure chemo & or radiation. I've watched too many friends & family spend their last few years in absolute misery going through the process...ymmv My grandfather got a bag at 63. Colon cancer. He never let it slow him down one bit. He and grandma drove round trip every year to winter in AZ. He hunted every year too, until his death at 92. 30 years of good livin'. Life is what you make it. p.s. he made light of the bag...said he never had to crap in the woods like us mortals. Glass was always half full with that guy.
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Glad to hear the surgery went well. I"ll pray for a speedy and healthy recovery since I missed praying for the surgery.
I was bored one night at work and was thinking about cancer and how my mother in law beat breast cancer, then passed away from the meds and after care. Then how my Father in law had prostate cancer. I was remembering seeing on the TV of a place in Baja California that treats cancer and cures it with medicine specific to you and the type and strain of cancer you have. It was pretty cool. Ofcourse the FDA doesn't allow it here in the states.
So I got to googling Cancer Baja Or something of the sort and seen a place that treats prostate cancer and the success rate is very high. I told myself if I ever get that nasty thing, Im looking to Mexico before I give up my boner.
Was thinking about that place when I was reading all the comments.
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Just a little update, My brother had his surgery last Tuesday and is doing fine the robotic surgery went very smooth and quick the Dr expects a complete and quick healing process...the pathology results look good and they don't anticipate Radiation treatments....Thank You all again for your Prayers ! I was in this same exact spot nearly 2 years ago to the date and am doing great. The worst thing about recovery was having to wear a catheter for 10 days. After they took it out things were fantastic. Give him my best and let him know he did the right thing. BE
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The last thing I would do is let them remove my prostate, there are worst things than dying. Care to explain the thought process? Since he didn't respond, I will...there's absolutely no way in hell I'll allow anything to be removed if it involves having to deal with a colostomy bag...Maybe if I were younger, but going on 65, I don't think the payoff would be worth the price especially if I had to endure chemo & or radiation. I've watched too many friends & family spend their last few years in absolute misery going through the process...ymmv My grandfather got a bag at 63. Colon cancer. He never let it slow him down one bit. He and grandma drove round trip every year to winter in AZ. He hunted every year too, until his death at 92. 30 years of good livin'. Life is what you make it. p.s. he made light of the bag...said he never had to crap in the woods like us mortals. Glass was always half full with that guy. Attitude is so important. I heard an oncologist once say that he could walk around the unit and pick out the survivors... Even if you have a condition with only 10% 5 year survival, you have to take the attitude that you're in the 10%, not the 90%. A positive attitude and faith can make a lot of difference. DF
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