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I'm always glad to see new bullets being developed and released, but how about confirming the BCs *before* releasing this? Putting my credit card back in my wallet.
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I thought this was the section about Big Game Rifles? Not that it isn't interesting but what does it have to do with "big game rifles"? Doesn't this thread belong in the Competitive Shooting section?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I thought this was the section about Big Game Rifles? Not that it isn't interesting but what does it have to do with "big game rifles"? Doesn't this thread belong in the Competitive Shooting section? There will be plenty who launch these at big game. Then come on here and whine about it when they blow up at 150 yards.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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I thought this was the section about Big Game Rifles? Not that it isn't interesting but what does it have to do with "big game rifles"? Doesn't this thread belong in the Competitive Shooting section? Forum title doesn't dictate topics posted. Take "Ask the Gunwriters" for example...
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I thought this was the section about Big Game Rifles? Not that it isn't interesting but what does it have to do with "big game rifles"? Doesn't this thread belong in the Competitive Shooting section? There will be plenty who launch these at big game. Then come on here and whine about it when they blow up at 150 yards. "Target" bullets used on game are supposed to blow up, no?
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I thought this was the section about Big Game Rifles? Not that it isn't interesting but what does it have to do with "big game rifles"? Doesn't this thread belong in the Competitive Shooting section? Forum title doesn't dictate topics posted. Take "Ask the Gunwriters" for example... Yeah that's what I figured.....just thought I'd mention it. Nothing like subject anarchy to keep things moving along. Just tired of match related stuff constantly worming into the hunting subjects.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I'm side'n with bob on this'n...
I believe Berger started the "lets use bullets meant for hole punching paper on game because its just because it is cool..... They just wanted part of the market share that hunting bullets where getting.
Match bullets are for paper and tiny groups. Nosler wants part of the current match bullet market craze. Nosler is adamant about proper bullet usage and hunting bullet market IS the Nosler bullet wheelhouse.
Btips, partitions are more accurate than most people think...
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I'm side'n with bob on this'n...
I believe Berger started the "lets use bullets meant for hole punching paper on game because its just because it is cool..... They just wanted part of the market share that hunting bullets where getting.
Match bullets are for paper and tiny groups. Nosler wants part of the current match bullet market craze. Nosler is adamant about proper bullet usage and hunting bullet market IS the Nosler bullet wheelhouse.
Btips, partitions are more accurate than most people think... Have some bad luck on game with Bergers? John
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If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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I'd like to think people shoot more rounds through their BIG GAME rifles at targets etc than they do at game.
I didn't know it was a mortal sin to shoot match type bullets in BIG GAME rifles.
Amazing what twists chicks panties.
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Nope, left the match bullets home when hunting big game. Have had spectacular results on marmots, ground squirrels, crows and 'yotes with match grade hollow points From what I have seen with match bullets fired into game first hand not from my rifles, but from different buds rifles is erratic expansion, such as instant blow-up very shallow wounds or delayed expansion in needling threw till the last few inches for a very dramatic exit... which could have just bullet tumble and not even expansion. The deer, elk and one bear were all made dead with match type bullets is proof they work.... to an extent. Yes, in big game or anything accurate shot placement is paramount...Consistent bullet terminal behavior is next when the quarry is not made of paper or metal. You're right bob, keeps the threads going.
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Just placed the news in the reloading section. Should I have posted it elsewhere?
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You're fine, just a bunch of pussy hurt folks with nothing better to complain about.
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Nope, left the match bullets home when hunting big game. Have had spectacular results on marmots, ground squirrels, crows and 'yotes with match grade hollow points From what I have seen with match bullets fired into game first hand not from my rifles, but from different buds rifles is erratic expansion, such as instant blow-up very shallow wounds or delayed expansion in needling threw till the last few inches for a very dramatic exit... which could have just bullet tumble and not even expansion. The deer, elk and one bear were all made dead with match type bullets is proof they work.... to an extent. Yes, in big game or anything accurate shot placement is paramount...Consistent bullet terminal behavior is next when the quarry is not made of paper or metal. You're right bob, keeps the threads going. I've had nothing less than great results from Berger HVLDs in .25, 6.5, and .30 cal. Animals I shoot with them just seem to make fewer tracks than anything else I've used. 175gr MKs have not given me the same results. Not all match bullets are created equal. John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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