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I recall way back in the day people hotrodding 38 supers for IPSC. I saw several fail in the case head. There didn't seem to be much damage to the gun itself, nor to the shooter. Had those 1911 frames been polymer what might have happened?

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Mike

IF you weren't such a twit, and paid attention to such things, you'd know that it does happen, and fairly often, and it's usually a .40.

I know a guy who's personally had at least four failures with factory .40 ammo, although not all of those were in Glocks (two Glocks, a Tanfoglio Witness, and a 1911, which lost a magazine and it's grips, but was otherwise okay). I don't recall exactly what happened with the Witness, but he lost the magazine and grips, again, with some other things wrong with the barrel and slide). The Glocks had "catastrophic events" although not as bad as the OP's pics, and were totalled. This was with factory Fiocchi ammo, which he purchased by the case, all at the same shop he got the various guns from. (the dealer was a distributor for Fiocchi ammo, too).
The dealer was/is a large police supply distributor for this area, and got his guns replaced without cost to the shooter, as he was/is a regular customer and spent a LOT of money there.

IF you didn't have your head firmly implanted someplace smelly, you'd have heard of these incidents.

Thank You !!

It amazes me the lack of reading comprehension here. That and the thought that everyone is looking to bash something.

The question is, in a like circumstance, would a steel frame afford a greater level of protection? Do we loose that protection with a polymer frame?

Clearly the answer is "Yes".


The question was not why it *ucking happened or who's *ucking fault it is, that was not the *ucking question.

yes a steel frame may have provided more protection, or shrapnel

Here's a question to help answer the OP's question. Has anyone seen a semiautomatic handgun with an exploded frame like the picture in the OP?

I hate plastic guns too. The only .40 I have is an S&W 4006.

45 autos run at 35000?


if the 40 is so bad what about 9mm plus P?

ever look at the same specs on that?

They do when you do something like drop a double charge of 231 in them.

As far as 9mm and 40, working in the same barrel blank, it's not psi that counts but total load on the chamber walls. The 40 is 22% larger than the 9mm in diameter and therefor 22% less steel.

Notice the difference between the side wall of the 9mm and the 40 chambers.

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Now granted that is only a factor in an overload or something that raises pressures beyond a limit. It's just that limit is less with the 40 than the 9mm.

Now I've heard that Gen 1 Glocks had an unsupported area in the chamber, something corrected in later Glocks. I don't know and don't claim to. I'm not a Glockaphile, don't dislike them, don't like them, basically indifferent.