Not arguing with anybody else's results or data in the .30-06. I really haven't had that many, so my data sample is small.

One of the (gun looney) reasons I had a .30-06 Ackley built was to finally reach 2800 fps with a 180 in a .30-06. Hadn't been able to do it before.

I now get 2850-ish out of the Ackley, comfortably, and I'm happy there.

3100-plus with a 180 (or 2950 with a 200) is what the .300 Winchester is for. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Rick

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