I found the Mucks too stretchy and they let my foot slide to the front when going down hill, causing the ends of my toes to hurt. Lacrosse has changed their pattern from years ago and the ones that fit my feet do not fit my calves. Since they fit my feet, I just turn down the tops. The Burleys are too cumbersome and heavy for me unless I am stand sitting. None do the whole job. miles
