Yes, we tried the patch and ball so he could shoot his new gun that day. Grouping was measured in feet not inches at 100 yards. The young man asked for loose powder at the Mom & Pop gun shop but was told pellets is what he needed. And yes they had loose powder on the shelf. I had him come back the next day when I was able to bring in my box of inline muzzle loader stuff and within two moves of his scope I had him hitting the x ring. He left with a gift of about 50 sabot's with my hard cast 240g bullets.

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