Well then, I like the sounds more and more of the .25 version. I will have to speak to my local gunsmith to find out some things dealing with it first. One thing that does intrigue me is tho it will not be a magnum round, the ballistics of the .25 caliber version seems to offer pretty good velocity figures from a shorter length barrel. It looks like you were pretty close in saying in compares to the .250 savage, at least with the smaller weight bullets. I think that would be more than enough to do what I want it to. On your .25 version, what is your length you are loading to?