I have Cabela's version of the cot-tent. It's decent for car camping. However, with the fly on, it's tight enough for pretty serious condensation. If it's not too cold and windy, I like it better with the fly removed, just use the mesh for bug protection, and hang a tarp overhead a bit. I use it with Cabela's cot pad and a WM semi-rectangular bag .. best sleep I've gotten away from home, better than many good hotels' beds.

Backpacking ... NeoAir. If you don't mind another half pound to pound, a folding Z mat. Protects the NeoAir from puncture, adds warmth underneath, and I think it about triples the comfort despite only 3/4ths inch of thickness. Well worthwhile if you're not going truly UL.

Tom


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