Either way, yes, we get a New York City liberal. It's by design. laugh. I would agree as to being a Constitutionalist. Bush senior and junior are in no way true Conservatives (or Constitutionalists for that matter). If we as a people do not turn back to GOD and HIS intent for this country (HE definitely guided the founding of this country), we will be lost. Sometimes, we have to hit rock bottom in order to reach out to HIM. Maybe we just aren't there yet. Matt 6:33. laugh