Not to throw a wrench in the works but I had a Dillon 650 for awhile and sold it after I got a hornady lock n load. The hornady is way easier and cheaper to change calibers, just as quick and easier to use in my opinion. The guy I sold the 650 to used it for a year. Then used my hornady and switched to. Most of the guys that use a 650 never used a lock n load.