Holy carp, there are TWO people using lee crimp dies on the 38 wcf?!? What's next, meeting someone that prefers Suntour Cyclone Rear derailleurs to Campagnolo gear from the same era? The world is a strange and wonderful place. As far as the crimp dies go, they work pretty well for me. Mostly they get used by me for pistol calibers, semi auto rifle loads, and heavier bullet loads in 338 and up hunting cartridges.