I have shot a bunch of gallon jugs filled with water! I like both my Grendels and while velocities are not all that high it is way more out of an Ar platform than the 223 is. jug tests have shown me it has more penetration than the 243 and the expanded bullets end up in better shape and bigger. I carried my AR15 M4 Grendel copy last night on an all night hog hunt, didn't get a shot but it did carry easy. Hunting season is sneaking up on us so more will be known soon.

Dog I rescued in January

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