Come on, Smokepole. Are you saying you haven't read any data put out by the major bullet or powder makers ? Some, like Barnes, say start at 40-60 thousand off the lands. So that's how you find the COL, right ? You start with a dummy round(s) at the lands and subtract from that.
I've shot lots of loads with different makes of bullets using the mid level loads they list. Even the all copper barnes bullets of today work fine as long as you use the same brass and seat them well off the lands. I've never found big differences in pressures as long as I used the same brass or at least brass close to the weight of the brass they list. E

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