The lessons my kids learned from 4H helped them to go to college debt free. Leadership, inner personal skills, raising and caring for an animal, dealing with the public and doing community projects were just some of the "stuff" they learned.
However the program is only as good as the parent volunteers - if you want a great learning experience for you kids be prepared to be part of the program by volunteering and taking that responsibility seriously.
Both turn out some outstanding youth - well worth the time and effort.