My .270 win has a really long throat so I have no problem hitting 3100 fps with a 130 gr. The ballistic tips are awesome on deer. At 400 yards it will punch through both shoulders. I have never recovered one. I started shooting Remington Core Lokt projectiles a while back to save $ and they are almost as accurate and hit just as hard and are half the cost. At least they were. I haven't seen them for sale in quite a while. Now I am using Sierra Pro Hunters -- around $0.26 per. I shoot a fair amount practicing on steel and spending 59 cents a round for Accubonds just hurts.