Summit, Summit, Do I need to say any more. I have a Viper I use for muzzleloader/gun hunting and a Broadhead model that I bow hunt out of. I've never had a bit of trouble out of any of my Summits. I've even climbed shag bark hickory with them and they locked in very well. I like the fact that the Summits are made in Decatur, AL. I've got an old Cougar Climber anyone ever use one of those? You've got to be careful with those, you can get yourself in trouble fast if you don't watch what your doing.