Have killed'um at 50yds or so with the set up I have now,see no reason to fix what ain't broke.$10 a box is good nuff,Winchester high velocity #5 do the trick without the big $ for me.Besides I like to have'um close enough to touch coolYMMV

My dog is a member of the "Turd Like Clan"

Covert Trail Cameras are JUNK

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