Drawing a special permit would be nice but even without any draw I have over the counter deer, elk, bear, cougar tags and will call for yotes so I don't have much to complain about. I counted up all the points I have in all categories-160 pts. I've been putting in for Mt goat since 1985. I'm thinking if I'm ever going to hunt mt. goat then I'm just going to have to spend the money and do it out of state.