Armednfree,
I might have had the same opinion of the 17 based on my first few outings. I was using Remington bullets and had inconsistent results. Some would expand and kill coyotes DRT but most required 2 or more shots and showed little to no expansion. I heard in the early/mid 90's, which is when I had my first 17, that Remington had a run of 17 bullets that were doing just that. I switched to the Hornady 25 grain HP and the difference was night and day. Chest shot coyotes dropped were they were standing. Rockchucks and ground squirrels erupted quite violently and magpies turned into confetti. I don't know if Remington ever fixed the 17 bullet issue and never really cared. The Hornady bullet did what I wanted is all I've ever used since then.
