Wow! A 6 yo thread I hadn't seen. Not much has changed for 358 Win loads. Mule Deer's extremely helpful Handloader article (previously cited in my posts) on the 338Fed & 358Win set a modern standard for modern bolt rifles (Savage 99 actions aren't as strong, I think we'd agree). His best load for us living in no lead States (Kalifornia) is the 200 TSX w/ 52 gr TAC, producing 2749 fps from a 22" barrel on a Ruger Hawkeye. I've been using the 200 TTSX instead (only on paper so far) but my current effort is with the 180 TTSX which has reached 2825 fps using a VERY compressed TAC load. I'm searching for a faster powder, less compressed to use, which, theoretically, should provide an additional ~100 fps. At 2900 fps, the trajectory for the 180TTSX & 200 TTSX at 2750 fps are identical. The 358 Win is NOT just a short range woods cartridge. It is a true mid-range cartridge w/ modern bolt rifles, propellants & projectiles, easily & humanely capable of taking deer & elk to 300-400 yd.