Here's what I posted: "If somebody can tell me exactly what advantages the .444 has over the .45-70 in a lever-action, especially for a handloader.....

Please explain what advantage a .444 has over a modern .45-70 lever handloaded with a 300-grain at 2200+--the velocity listed in Hodgdon's data, which is usually pretty conservative.

Then there's the fact that 45-70 ammo, of whatever type, is far more available than .444.

Plus, I know from actual experience that a "traditional" .45-70 load (whether factory or handloaded) with a bullet in the 400-grain range will take game beyond 200 yards--if the hunter knows what they're doing, even with an 1884 Springfield trapdoor.


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