I have one of the trade-in 21s. Not a bad gun in the Gen 3 SF version. Thanks gunner500. A good idea for a solid gun. Was trying to think of a certain brand. I think they came out with carbines in the same calibers that use the same magazine. It just came up in a conversation and I had Oldtimers' disease. Rusty

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