That’s what I was curious about. Some places I hunt I like a shoulder or head shot due to nearby property lines, but in less restrictive areas, the lung shot wastes less meat. May try them on stuff lesser than elk where lung shots are appropriate, or simply use them for targets as designed. I like one load for hunting per caliber, so will probably go wih something else for hunting. Got some 150gr, CT Ballistic Silvertips too, those work pretty well, and made for hunting.