I have hade Leupold #4 and PD scopes as well. I found the Leupold German #4 to be too far apart on the thick sections, as well as the center cross wires to be too thick. I felt compared to other companies like Swarovski the Leupold #4 covered too much of the target when doing more precise shooting. The PD from Leupold was better than their #4 in my opinion. I still prefer a #4 like Swarovski's or Kahles' over anything Leupold has to offer. This is just my opinion.