Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by buttstock
No one ever mentions these possibilities...

What if, just if, the Portuguese Craftsmen are BETTER at their job in assembling and finishing the model 70 rifles, than the US gun assembler? What if "assembled in Portugal" stamped rifles are HIGHER quality than the FN-South Carolina made rifles?

There were certainly quality issues with the last few years of New Haven model 70 rifles. It is safe to write that current Portugal assembled rifles are higher quality than at least the late stage New Haven Winchester model 70 rifles, which were made and assembled in the USA, by US union workers.

Or, what if Portugal assembled rifles weren't BETTER than, but every bit the "just" EQUAL of FN-South Carolina guns? No one discusses these possibilities.

It could very well be the case. We need to be objective, not emotional.


79s brings these points up all the time.


Also the FN plant in South Carolina was never intended to make hunting rifles. That plant produces tools for US Army and other branches. Ie M16, M4, M249 and the numerous variations of the M240 (probably one of the finest machine guns ever built) throw on top of that there source of stocks in the US the qc was horrendous. What folks don’t know is Portugal is home to all the stock making for FN. we are talking grade 5 wood for there shotguns come out of this facility. They can control qc in house.

Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.