I am one of those who never had a problem with the Leupold/Redfield STD rings, for whatever reason. I suppose I am one of those "rare few", ha. I've even had hard kickers too, 416 Taylor, 416 Remington, 458 WM and 375 Weatherby. I like them. I never used bigger screws either, just stock. BUT, I do use Loctite on all screws from base up. I'm trying to decide right now what scope I'm going to put on a little Ruger 77 338 RCM. ha I've had great results ( on those hard kickers) with Weaver 1x3, Leupold 2.5 Ultralight, Leupold 2x7, 2.5x8. I once had a Ruger #1 in 458WM with a Bushnell Sportview 4x that was great. I also used a Bushnell Duck til Dawn 1.75x4x (or 4.5) on Marlin 45-70s with heavy loads. worked fine. It just doesn't seem right to me to put a $60 scope on a $700 rifle. ha I zero them and leave them alone, no dialing up and down.