The 140 out of the 6.5 CM hull gets all that can be reasonably gotten IMO.[/quote]

I'm sure I will not go beyond this myself, I was just curious if someone had tried it. I know the "Swede" is used on moose with the 160, so most think "Old School 6.5" think of it. I also understand ( MM) about not using a VLD in a .275 Rigby, ha. So far, the only "limb" I'm willing to climb out on for the Creedmoor is using the 139 Scenar. Too many good reports not to at least try it myself. My hesitation with using Match bullets is a doe I saw my uncle kill at 30 steps. Hit her in the neck, made saucer sized (and saucer deep) wound. Pure shock killed her. I asked him what he was shooting in his beloved Mod 742 30-06? He showed me a "handful of rounds so & so gave him". They were Match loads! ha But, I'm willing to see at least how they shoot. If I did end up playing with the 160RN in the Creed, I'd want to try it on a big hog. Hogs are great bullet Tests! smile