As for deer calibers soft on your shoulder, I shot my .243 today with 100 gr bullets and 41? gr IMR 4350. Not much kick at all and it is not a heavy rifle. I saw one deer killed with a .243. It was a bad hit and way high and forward. It was a big doe and only went 40' or so. I was amazed how quick the deer died. A good shot would likely have dropped it right there. My 12 yr old boy shot it with his H&R . 243. Win . youth . It was a very un accurate gun.

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