I think there are some guys who have 20 Ackley Hornets over on Saubier. Vartarg is about perfect if you ask me, I love both of mine. If you want to talk small caliber, that is the place.

http://www.saubier.com/forum.html

Last edited by jdunham; 01/27/20.
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