I failed to clarify things. I wasn't grumpy at the time, having stuck a couple cases myself. I told him I'd take care of it and to go write the letters to family he'd put off in order to size cases. After he went to bed I tried the RCBS stuck case remover and it didn't work. Tool failure tends to have a negative effect on my personality. Tannhauser pretty much nails it with his post. When I became a father I accepted right off that a bunch of stuff was going to be broken-lost-abused if things were going to go right so to speak. The kid is a much better man than I was at his age, I suspect that trend will continue.