That they are, Dan.
I remember my Dad talking about "Throw the bums out", "NO Incumbents" and "There's gonna be a Revolution" back in the early 70's when I was getting out of high school.
This from a twice wounded WWII vet that went across Europe with Patton and epitomized the word Patriot.
At the time, I though he was a little nuts.
The older I got, the smarter he got.
The no incumbents is always a nonstarter. We've heard it a million times, but it never happens. Term limits are the only hope and there ain't much hope for that either.