My thoughts are the CCI shotshells suck and despite their marketing hype the old crimped shotshells are better. Back when Jamesway went out of business and had ammo marked half price I bought several bricks of Winchester crimped shotshells. Had a rossi 62 pump gun at the time and they fed through it like shotgun shells through an 870. My brother and I had a ball wing shooting bats in the evening and sparrows during the day around my dads barn with that Rossi and those shotshells. We knocked dozens of bats and sparrows out of the sky at distances of 20-30 ft.. Killed hundreds of frogs and dragonfly's around the pond too. I even killed a cottontail rabbit from about 8 or 10 feet one day but anything bigger and tougher or farther away forget it.