Originally Posted by jfruser
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
What will break the deep state is the voters sending them home.



Not even close.

Politicians aren't the deep state.
They are the scummy water you see in the swamp.
We choose and approve them. Know them and can find them.

The deep state is the bureaucracy. Many hired as Twentysomethings,

They have been circulating the halls of power for decades.
Day to day, THEY run the government. They make much of the
policy, and have enormous influence on the politicians in the
big decisions.

Think of Comey Muller, Strzok.
Look at what they did.
Never elected, mostly unknown. Under the radar.
The Deadly Creatures that prowl the swamp.


Indeed, the elected politicians are just actors/puppets.


Originally Posted by Terryk
Originally Posted by jfruser
Trump is a lucky bullsh!+er who had no clue regarding the real state of the ruling class. He has learned almost nothing since becoming president and has been terrifically ineffectual, more ineffectual than even I thought he would be.




I am actually shocked he got so much done, but maybe it depend on what a person thinks is important. He did not make unisex bathrooms for pedophiles and creeps.
He did do best trade deals ever, best economy ever, reduced welfare, stopped useless wars, help veterans, and other ineffectual things. Just BS stuff.


I voted for Trump to build the wall and cut/stop immigration of all sorts. Trump has blustered and tweeted, but done next to nothing. Exec order to end anchor babies? Executive order DAY ONE to snuff the "Dreamers?" SOund and fury, signifying nothing. His first AG, Jeff Sessions, has thus far done the most to stop the invasion. And Trump is doing his best to sink Sessions' bid to get re-elected to the Senate.

I voted for Trump to stop us getting involved in stupid overseas conflicts and get out of NATO. He expanded our presence in Syria, has acted the fool with Russia and Iran, and been the best president Israel has ever had. We still have troops in over 100 countries. We are still in NATO.

Trump has done a bit here & there regarding trade. That is the upside of his presidency.

And Trump's biggest achievement thus far has been his tax cuts for billionaires bill. Yeah, all those pore+oppressed billionaires. You might say he was hoodwinked by Paul Ryan, but if Ryan can hoodwink Trump, Trump is a pinhead.


I recall President Trump got the US out of Syria and Iran. I recall dems funding ISIS in Syria, and obongo delivering plane loads of cash illegally to iran. I recall dems blocking all the wall funding. I recall President Trump requiring other countries to pay for NATO, I recall President Trump telling the WHO to take a hike. I guess the news is different on CNN. For the opposition to the objections you mentioned, I am surprised at his progress.
If radical dems were removed from office, then you would get your false narrative done. So the problems you are trolling don't exist with the President, they are rooted in the deep state. So I will take your message as positive goals that the President has addressed as much as he could.
I doubt you are a troll trying to push half truths.