Ray, I have answered you on some of this 6.5prc stuff before so you must not trust what I said. I told you I'm up to 5 reloads on my Hornady brass so far. Should get at lest a couple more. I am shooting a Mossberg Predator 6.5prc and hitting my 619 yd gong with my 3-14 Leupold cds. Have not shot further yet but plan too. YMMV.