I have 2, one in a 17 HMR and 1 in the 1:8 twist .22-250 special run for Whittakers. I seldom use them. The 17 is an expensive plinker, but the rifle is fine for what it is, I just dont shoot that caliber that much. The 22-250 has never been fired by me yet. Had it a few years. One of these days I will shoot it. They are a little too cheap feeling to me to purchase, when I can get used Tikka rifles for $400 or $450 and even the new T3x Superlights for under $600 on sale at Sportsmans. I much prefer the Tikka to the cheaper rifles of all brands.