Thanks all, like I said this kind of gear is new to me. I have a penn 209 and a Penn Peer 109 and allways liked their simplicity. I went to an item viewing for an online auction, I'm not much on vocal auctions for anything because I have a severe hearing loss. On the fire I can hear everyone has to say. Well there were 2 of these 4/0 Penn rod and reel combos. I ended up with 1 of them for $ 31.95, picked it up the next day everything on it works and seems to be in nice shape. Now for some big cat water. Mb
