Originally Posted by OldGrayWolf
^^^^ He’s right, you know.

And when we go for it, we pretty much guarantee that America as we knew it is over. What comes out the other end of such a fight will look nothing like it did going in, and there is a minuscule chance of it being anything we would want. Unfortunately, that or submission may be our only choices. Sucks to be us...

True, but if we do nothing, America is done anyway!

Last edited by keith_dunlap; 09/28/20.

if a man speaks, and there isn't a woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?